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It's still a clown show up there even if it's improved. Poor coaching choices, bad personel decisions and going nowhere even if they can scrape some wins together. Hell they are 1-3 too. An idiot owner will always be the easiest way to tank a team. It's just playing Madden in real life while making gobs of money.

NE figured out the offense. Double Tet and sit on the run. Bryce had nothing to give at thst point. Freaking NE finally shut it down, that's how bad it is. I expect to see more of that formula moving forward.

At the end of the season sure. A house cleaning is going to be earned by then. Remove Young from the equation and what have they done? They didn't bring in a younger QB behind Young. Kept guys like Moore and Scott who shouldn't even be on the team. Their biggest offensive signing is on IR. Refusing to play young guys when the starters are ass. 2 years in for DC and 3 for Morgan and there are so many misses everywhere. I have zero interest in more of this or the 'they earned a right to pick a QB'. Just flush this crap please.

First part I agree with. The second part I don't. They went out and signed a 1k guy to be the backup so play him. It's the NFL so dealing with injuries is the norm. Bryce needs a stud to function, well if that's true then especially limit him because they are going to need him to try and keep their jobs.

Chubba had an injury I thought? So keeping him limited was a good call. The rest are points worth discussing. Just bad coaching on many levels. I would rather play rookies with their mistakes than field some of the 'starters' they chose. Go ahead and cut Scott, start there since it's an easy first step.

I think we should trade him to Atlanta and see if the universe implodes or he just helps them beat themselves every game.

Meh too biased even if interesting. Just say 1-3 agaisnt the other worst teams. If you saw his play then you already saw enough.

No real upside and can't be leaned on. Looks good when thr other team is in prevent or asleep, looks limited regardless. There are zero reasons for a year 4. Just call it what it is and play his year with the focus on moving him after the season. We should play him into the ground for a new QB but this crew has to do more than that or else. It's all so stupid.

Then why was he brought back? Everyone signed off on this and then drafted around him. Just let it play out and clean house. First they have to finish another underwhelming year.

Ron out coach Wilks in every category. Even as a DC too.

Andy! Lol

If he didn't have his guy he wouldn't have brought Andy back. He was comfortable with all this.

Remember when I said Scott isn't even a good backup and people said I was over reacting? How about now? Dude is a special teams guy and should never been on the field with the D.

Aren't the Pats picking 1st this year?

I can. They hired a great DC and he classically messed up a good thing on the other side. They had success on the offensive side and then took it for granted when team building. Personally I think they got lucky with Stroud and then did what their normal is. Im not a fan of their GM either so I just think your seeing the true normal from that group. There is a reason Kiffen wanted to remain a top DC vs taking on the switch to HC. Being great as a coordinator doesn't require the same talents that makes a great HC. Bowles is doing a better job as HC than I think of his times as a DC too. Fans just take it for granted that a great coordinator will automatically make a great HC.

Smart coach. Good attitude too. Im a little shocked Bowles was able to find him as an OC after losing his OC the year before. For a deffensive HC to keep finding decent to good OCs is a huge hurdle. Look down at the Texans. The best DCs to HCs don't figure out thr other side very often and they can make a mess of it like that more often than not. I think we got the wrong one honestly. That is a quality HC or at least a guy who has a good chance of turning into one.

How about fug them both? Baker came in with an attitude problem. It wasn't a secret in Cleveland either. Wilks had a QB playing a DE on the scout team and hasn't stuck anywhere long so whatever is going on there it seems to be a thing. Right now Wilks is coaching a bottom 3rd D, one that was a top 3rd 2 years ago, so it's not even spilt milk people are crying over...not sure what it is but it isn't very good. I say that while still appreciating the post Rhule effort. Fug them both and the fact this team still can't beat Baker in Tampa is the only thing in all of this worth being upset about IMO.

It Was putting me to sleep too

I wish we had Stroud. Young would have already washed out on the Texans. Their entire staff would have already been fired and he would be on his second team by now. Mean while fans here are celebrating 1-2 in the easy part of the schedule.

Pull a Hurney and just move him to IR. Call it a bad case of effortitis.

He looks to be the David Moore of the Vikings...while Moore is worse