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DJ would still be good and Bryce would still be Bryce. Instead of talking about needing a WR we would be talking about needing help on D. That is just moving the problem to another position and not addressing the real issue the team is facing, a bad trade for a player who wasn't worth it anyways.

Just wait until Sunday's fallout...

He was absolutely part of the issue and got way too many passes.

I want that to be true but if he is just a yes man for Tepper then he isn't really in immediate danger until Tepper says otherwise. If he gave a crap about what the media or fans say then he wouldn't do most of the stuff he has in his tenure as the GM. All signs still point to them being in the same mindset as when they set this mess up, at least to me until they do something that shows they are changing course. I still expect he is selling clueless Tepper on this all being easily fixable lol.

LOL. This is all set up to blow up in their faces. Whatever it takes to get Fritterer fired I guess.

Everything used to prop him up was BS except his ability to sell his BS. This place has been ruining trends since Tepper got here. I am not believing in the 4-0 thing until it's 5-0.

Rhule always turned it around in year 3 until he didn't. It's football and any team can drop a turd on Sunday but this one is a tell of two teams headed in opposite directions.

This is a thread literally about fans not being happy with him as their DC...

Unless his master plan is to hit free agency with no value past a prove it contract then it doesn't make much sense. CmC was already paid and it wasn't all his choice.

There wasn't much there in the first place. There was 1 upgrade at safety and they chose to switch the D scheme with so little depth and known player health issues. The last 5 games last year 1 the opponets scored less then 20 points, Saints divisional slap fest, so its not like that unit needing more help wasn't a known thing they mostly ignored or failed to address. More bad news, the O won't be scoring 30 very often. And it can get worse, it this BS again next year which just seems cruel at this point in this season. The good news is that a player or two may establish themselves as decent if they get enough playing time in that mess. Maybe I guess.

It's a mental break from reality. If you are going to wish for on a 'could have been' it's Stiechen or Johnson, it's not even close to Wilks. They could have made him DC but it's not like that is going well on a team that already had the top D last year that's starting to fall out of the top 5 this year...

Continue having one. I appreciate laughing at your take on Wilks

He was right tho

I was being serious. Your blind love for Wilks completely misses his time in Arizona or his negatives last year. It's not my fault you can't handle what people seriously think about him as a coach. I like the guy enough to hope he takes the App job. It's the perfect spot for him, his coaching style will go far in that setting and the kids would be lucky to get a coach of his quality there.

He is about the same. Wilks deserves respect but he isn't any better of a HC. Both are living in the past and neither was a good option. Fanboy as hard as you want for Wilks, he is 100% a known quantity in the NFL. If Wilks was here he wouldn't be doing much more than Riech. It may not be fair Wilks is taking heat over Shanny but his D is worth the critisim it's getting. Bring back Fox or Rivera is the same as bring bacl Wilks too me. Leave it all in the past where it belongs.

His D looked worse and he just went to power running on offense which was the lowest hanging fruit Rhule avoided like the plague. Good guy but he makes a better interim than HC. He isn't even really a good DC. He is one of those guys who you want to succeed but he just won't in reality. He absolutely got the guys behind him, that is his best strength, but that also isn't enough as a HC. I would much rather have had another year of Wilks but I doubt he would have survived more than a year with his skill set. Hell Reich shouldn't survive this year beyond the 'more time' BS while they kill another season giving him more rope proving what he has been for years. They should have gone Steichen or begged Johnson to build an empire here. Those were the only 2 good options this offseason for the Panthers. Wilks is going to take more blame then he should as an easy target out in SF but he is also earning enough himself because that was a stupid call for a DC let alone a coach that has handled HC duties before.

And Owner. Always owner first but the GM is also terrible

I have no idea what it will take for them to admit this swing was a failure but they don't look close yet. Feels like we should already be on year 2 of this one yet it's just 6 games in lol.

That is both sad and depressing yet expected. Next year is also when I will be walking away from my PSLs and I suspect others will be doing the same. 24 is going to be terrible but funny for any non-Panthers fans. Tepper could hire a decent GM and give him a year to set up for 25 (scout HCs, evaluate players on the roster, start fixing what Fritz fugged up) but he won't because he is absolutely a loser in the NFL.

Well they can draft about as well as they trade so maybe they need new people who aren't terrible at most everything they do first? It's just going to be more waste until that part is fixed first. They have already made next season depressing already so keep digging that hole as whost team in the NFL I guess.

They have been held back by their QBs for a while now. Anyone not expecting a big step back going from Ryans to Wilks is probably surprised by this. Wilks will be the scapegoat this season and they will swing for another QB again.

Back in the day it was a place blue-collar players that wanted a family friendly environment liked. At least that was the image projected which actually appeared that way but with JR I always have to look back and wonder. If you are very wealthy and young why would you want to hang around the Carolina unless you were from around here? And even then like just visit. NC's got plenty of upside but the vin diagram overlap for young/wealthy and those positives are sparse. Have fun in the move. That is a fun area even if they did nerf SF itself.

Not this year, that is an injured Burrow. Says he had a calf strain he reaggravated in week 2. You are literally comparing him to Burrow who is having his worst year with a lingering injury who is throwing 2.1 yards less on average this year compared to last year... Stat Link Burrow's rookie year was 6.7 ypa

It's a bad match of QB to Oline strengths. Still, Young needs to be pushed and stop the coddling. Either he can or can't. Throw down the field and do some non-shotgun stuff more often or it's going to keep failing either way. It would take years to rebuild everything to just a shotgun offense, guys like Moton and Ickey are wasted in that kind of offense.