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I see it the same way. QB purgatory is real and can last DECADES. What would you pay to avoid that? We could use our 1st this year on a guy who is more likely to bust than not. Next year we will prob use our 1st and maybe give up a future first to trade up for another rookie QB who could also bust. 3 firsts is not a crazy price given that we know Watson is an elite QB. I honestly see Carolina spending 3-4 first round picks over the next 5-7 years trying to find someone like Watson. Even after spending that kind of capital, it’s still a low chance we’ll find someone like that.

If he gets injured a lot at 20-21, he doesn’t stand a chance at 25-27 (with a longer nfl season). Sounds like he isn’t worth any pick.

Stafford wants to go to a real contender. He’ll be a colt or 49er. We really aren’t in the convo except to drive the price up.

Yeah, Rhule said you want a young QB to have mobility. It helps them extend plays since their processing is slower. Older guys can get away with not being mobile since they process so quickly. tldr; goodbye Trask and Jones.

Let’s hope Rhule and Flores become best friends this week at the senior bowl and work out a trade for that #3 pick.

I’m with you.

We trade down and gather 4+ picks in the second round. If we can’t get a QB then we fill as many holes as we can.

It’s more than clear from recent comments that Tepper knows we need a QB. That’s obvious to anyone. Even if we want to trade, it’s looking like the ability to trade might not even be there. So many teams in front of us need a QB.

Yep, I don’t see how we snag a QB this year. Trading back is the most likely play. Looking forward to that 6 win season next year.

Picks are life when you’re rebuilding. You don’t give them away for a past-his-prime injury prone QB. We can get one of those for no picks somewhere else. Id be ok giving up a day 3 pick, but not a first or second.

Cam always held the ball too long. Not having good receivers will do that though.

I feel like I’m in the twilight zone here. In a QB dominated league, no team willingly cuts a good QB loose. He’s obviously hot garbage now if they are so willing to let him walk. You don’t give up high picks for a QB like that.

...Or the defensive tools to neutralize an elite QB like Denver did to Brady and Cam in 2015.

Who knows. Point was Hurney flew down to Miami Super Bowl week to tell Greg in person. Greg wanted to retire a panther.

He left because Hurney cut him.

You sound like all those Pats fans talking up Cam and what he did in the past. There is a reason the lions parted ways with him. Giving up draft picks for him would be a terrible decision.

Stafford will fetch a 2nd or 3rd.

Why would a guy who’s trying to get away from bad ownership go to a team with worse ownership?

Why should we believe this guy again?

Agreed. What you’re trading away is the HOPE of getting some superstar players in the future. The reality will most likely be a lot different. We had a stretch where we drafted Kelvin, Vernon, and Shaq in the first. Anyone would trade those picks for a QB like Watson. What makes this more interesting is Seattle’s experience in the first round. They’ve sucked with those picks the past 5 years or so. Fits might not value a first like we do.

Interesting. I remember them trading their best O lineman to the Saints in exchange for Jimmy Graham.

Yeah, they have been purposefully de-emphasizing the O line in favor of skill players. I guess Scott didn’t agree.

He’s got all the leverage though. They need him to make DW happy. He could command a Rhule type contract easily.

I was thinking this same thing. We’d also be upgrading over any QB we’re likely to get in the draft. Also, what’s the chance we hit on a franchise QB this year? Pretty low right? So we’re prob going to be drafting another QB in the first in another year or two. We might trade away a 1st to trade up this year or in the future. All in all, we’re likely going to spend two - three first round picks over the next 5-6 years trying to get that QB anyway. It’s not a bad deal really.

You’re thinking of something else. That doesn’t happen here.