Basbear

I just would not pay a QB top money unless he's truly top 5. Look at giants, look at what rams did, its the largest problem to have. Honestly you have 4 year deal, then the 5th year option, THEN you can tag for 3(I think) years. That's (carry the 2.....add the 1, divide by root of 3)... 8 years of control!!! If its got to the breaking point a massive trade haul too. I'd stay drafting one every 5 or so years and not paying the 500 million, Id make Mike brown look like Bernard Arnault....

cam made caleb Williams look like a dwarf!

I think that's the deal, the Dallas or miamis are sick and tired of the contracts that are 60mill per for a QB that struggle in the playoffs, get a cheaper and better player. (others teams may join) I'd do the same, there's maybe 4-5 QBs Id give that insane bag to, dak and tua are not there...

I think penix is 1st lock, imo. JJ hype has cooled massively, but I still think he's a 1st too.

I swear it feels like they are going at a QB, the big three will be gone by 3......does JJ have their eye?.....I still think penix is better. I called penix going form 12-32 months ago, but Im starting to feel that first number needs to be lower now.

For sure 5 go, its a 99.99997876% lock for that.

I got no issue with that so long its not below 40 ....maybe 42 MAX. Just a big talent fall off happens right at 40, but someone falls most times. Form 14-40 are about the same level player. Then a big drop and this year late 5th-7 rounds are trash given draft pool BS/nil/coofus BS. Honestly just don't trade far behind Panthers 39th and 142, both are cliffs.

About the same odds that Carolina wins the NFC south...

If the rumors are real- Laiatu Latu

Or panthers playing 8.7 chess to fool the league into thinking they are

Most of those guys would have gotten within 10/15% of the contract jags handed them(maybe not crazy zay Jones...). Sure teams have to spend within cap rules, but where the jags did shows they are trying to help. 200 million on WR&TEs is better for Trevor than DL&DBs, you know this. Kirk was injured some as well, the year before he had a breakout 1,100 and 8 TDs. I admitted being a non-fan of each and super disagree with the contracts, but its on Trevor to play better than his current pace. The jags have masked his bad playing with their surprise wins. Many of the wins came with ugly QB play, but it was a weird year for the jags(each year some fluky team wins with bad QB play). With two years along side Doug Peterson, he's not gotten better either and that is Doug's specialty. Why hasn't jags give him the bag? Why doesn't Trevor sit out in protest? he could given the fans feelings.....

I still feel the Sean Gilbert trade is still the worse, but.......if young does a 2023 repeat.......I mean that's got to challenge the top spot. most of fitterererers trades were not with heavy ammo, expect darnold and young. 5th for Baker but our terrible staff could not help him. He did get draft picks for Robby Anderson, Greg little, and Dennis daley all of them were considered pure trash. CJ Henderson and a 5th for a out of the league TE Dan Arnold and 3rd, that was a wash. Laviska Shenault was got for a 6th and 7th for two years of meh play and IRs, another wash/meh/no winner. The draft trades were in panthers favors, *but he did not select good players with the extra picks. I still feel the herniay has a lead in bad trades due the early usage of picks. But if you factor in greg Olson trade, that its self was a top 20 NFL history trade. Just the Edwards, otah, brown ones hurt.....I even remember when he traded a 5th for "tank" DT who played at NC State and fell asleep during meeting and was off the team next year. Both had unreal pressure to get back2back winning seasons form the owners, it had to play a role in most of other awful trades.

I would say Kirk and honestly Im not a fan of his. But he did have nearly 1,200 yards his first year there. I think you said the jags were not doing him favors, but my guy they have spent 200 million on WR&TEs in two years. Even if I wasn't a fan of the names, that's one HUGE favor. Jags have the same problem as Panthers, no one wants to play for each unless the over-pay is in play. IMO the jags vastly overpaid for those WRs and TE. I mean they didn't let ridley walk per say, they waited until the draft comp was a 3rd rather than a 2nd. Once the date happened, titans came in with that insane offer that ridley had to take even after waiting for the jags as a favor.

That year in the NFL, learning, growing how to be pro. It's highly valueable to me. It puts that player and team one full year and two off-seasons ahead. It almost like which would rather have 1,000 dollars today or 1,111 dollars April 21st 2025? For me gimme that 1k and I hope to turn it into more before next year......

Call the team that did this ultra awful trade-

No team is dumb enough to trade a first the 33rd.... too bad panthers can not trade with themselves........ God I hate that fitterererere was worse than hernaiy....

He was hailed as the next big thing, no other QB since luck had the hype. Facts are he's been average AT BEST and below average for periods as well. Take away the college orange and 1st overall, I doubt they would have stuck with him that long. Plus why haven't the jags gave him the 500 million bag, hmmm...??? I KNOW..... they know what I know!! Its soooo hard for college fans to see the truth, I get it.... Theres been enough time and just more QBs have played better than him than not.

That's tevors whole career, like I said some good and some bad, NOT elite. Jones didn't have his team drop 100+ million on WRs and another 40 million on a TE. They just spent another 40 million on a WR this year after all that. It's all there if you look at the facts. Its just lots of average at times, poor others, and couple elite. I just remember watching two of his games this last year, both were awful even though jags won both.

First 48 career starts Trevor Lawrence- 20-28 W-L 85.5 Pass Rating, 55/35 Pass TD/INT, 12,204 Pass+Rush Yds 6.7 Yards/Att Daniel Jones; 19-29 W-L, 85.4 Pass Rating, 55/33 Pass TD/INT, 11,992 Pass+rush Yds, 6.7 Yards/Att Well, well, well........ any comments now??

I did see only one game and he was awful. He's not the reason for the wins either.

They spent 100+ million on WRs, traded for riley, and got QB guru Doug Peterson. He just not reached the level most thought, he's been too much bad mixed with less good.

Yes he's got a couple high points, but many more lows point. His bar was space high and he's average mixed with below average. Jags have won out of spite, even after spending heavy offense. Peterson is a QB guru and he's gotten worse. Jags should bring in legit competition.