Basbear

Brother you are not a moron! Maybe age got you some. I feel it does come down to Icky or Motown, you can only pay one. Im going with the younger and more valuable LT. Who knows Panthers *could* not be happy with contract negotiations with Ickys reps and Know Motown would sign for 12 million per over 4 years. Then Panthers would need to be drafting a LT instead of RT. Let me check- Rashawn Slater signed a 4 year, $114,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Chargers, including $29,000,000 signing bonus, $92,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $28,500,000. In 2025, Slater will earn a base salary of $2,000,000, a signing bonus of $29,000,000 and a roster bonus of $7,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $14,800,000 and a dead cap value of $56,000,000 My god Icky will be in this zip code......

Yea, I doubt Panthers can come close to a "fair" deal. Let me check- Morgan Moses signed a 3 year, $24,000,000 contract with the New England Patriots, including $4,200,000 signing bonus, $11,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,000,000. In 2025, Moses will earn a base salary of $2,300,000, a signing bonus of $4,200,000 and a workout bonus of $150,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,550,000 and a dead cap value of $11,000,000. Moses is older, but I don't know if Motown would take that, the other point is Id don't think the Panthers can offer this either. They have Icky and then........BY. How do you place a price on BY if he goes out in 2025 and tears up everyone...250 million?!?!?! That's means no RT too. Just too many players to pay. The Panthers already paid up for OGs and invested 8th, 32, and 39 at WR. Plus tossed 4th and 5th at TE to help BY. Personally I feel Motown knows this is his last panther season and it means a lot to him.

Thornton was in his jersey, he is bringing it and glad to hear about a UDFA making plays and earning reps. If Thor keeps it up, bu-bye Evans.

Hey we are all Panthers fans, just message board theatrics. Keep pounding!!

Yes that part is not written in stone. I think Icky will look better in Pass settings, he's finally got some young hungry players to work on his craft. I hope he has gotten meaner too, *on field* Still you simply can not pay everyone top dollar, its impossible. So C or RT need to a focus on draft day and bargain bin FA shopping.

You got it figured out, Once Icky gets his mega-deal that will be 3 different OLmen with cap hits in the 20s........Unless Motown wants to take a super discount, he will get a bigger offer else where. Panthers need both C and RT on rookie deals or around 5 million per..... Just the facts.

He was on the "sideline" during OTA or mini camp, Im sure there was some Twitter/X post but news just moves so fast now. He's not getting the press as TMac or even Horn, but he is making plays. That's the other deal, Im a big fan of his! Just in order to get great value you need to give value in return. I said he would have been a 3rd rounder in 2025 draft, he just had bad luck with injuries hurting his stock and coming out in a deep WR class.

You know how hard it is for a player to play both sides in this era. If they do that, all it takes is to keep Hunter defending non-stop go-routes. He just will not be able, but a small package of plays, sure. So they need a #2 for 80-90% of the snaps and/or #3 for 100% of the plays. Coker would hold plenty of value for them. On the Panthers roster, Im not sure he gets a jersey since he's limited on ST. Cokerheads just don't want to face the truth.

Since you are out of bumps, just wait for others to do your thinking like you have for this thread. You cannot answer Cokers questions, I bet if you tired you ended up just like this- LOLs

Wow, thanks for answering the question! The other cokeheads are scare or unsure, they don't even know if he will be active or scare to post his projection 2025 stats. You for sure have a open mind about this, I knew the reason before I posted it. Psssssst but don't tell the other cokeheads, he was nursing a injury is what I heard. Ill drop this from the list, no biggie!

PFF listed LLoyd as a top 15 LB in each past two seasons Sorry your honor, cokerheads can not stop with the bumps...

He would be active for the jags on game days and be the #2-3. Here on the deep Panthers, he would not. Cokerheads please apply you yourself.

Cokeheads don't know if he will be active on gamedays!! Im 100% certain Lloyd will be! I rest my case your honor!!

Cokeheads-Who are the 4 active WRs on GameDay? List each one and reasons. FYI you better factor in STs.

Coker is under contract for only one year, then its EPFA(??). Im going to ask everyone in this thread, who are the 4 active WRs come game day? \What are cokers stats looking like for the upcoming year? It does feel like Im talking to coke-heads taking line after line then telling me they can not part with one of their overrated charizards cards.....

This is a great torch carrier for the Panthers LB story.

How do they know that?? Reminder this is the jaguars org. Lloyd is a better fit for that panthers and Coker better for the Jags. Jags have a surplus of LBs and Panthers have surplus of WRs. Each team improves while not losing.

That's fair. I feel their is a slim chance at playoffs. And I always do both with future and now, its a difficult measure there. Lloyd is just as young, the big difference is Coker has one extra year of contract controll. But Lloyd was drafted in the late 1st and Coker wasn't drafted, again that's a balance taking place. Just spitting an idea that in my mind is fair to each side, after Panthers main trade chip got hurt yesterday. But Ive been thinking about the deep WR, I know those two UDFAs Hudson and George got some skills too. With the odds against Coker after he posted that good season, great if you say include UDFA....This is his peak value, unless he's a HOFer or injuries hit hard, he's not going to move the sticks much this season. Cokerheads must open their eyes and close the nostrils.

Now I will concede here. If Panthers decide they will not pay LBs, Coker is a better fit.

Bro he is not a disappointment. He's very durable and PFF loves him (which the Panthers are big fans now....)along with being right there in top categories. He gotten better each year as well, I don't know why jags want to go a different path, Panthers can gain for it. If Panthers remain healthy, Coker will not be active most gamedays. He's not a STer, horn kills him there. How many targets will Coker see this season? TDs? What's your guess?

Panthers will only activate 4 WR on gameday- AT, TMac, XL, and Hunter. Huddle- "Coker on the bench is much better than Lloyd getting 70 snaps 10tacs leading the Defense" I will bump this thread each week Coker is inactive

I see that since they are all cokeheads with no future vision!!

Check my stuff above........ this is a weird deal bro.....