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I mean, Tom Brady was a 6th rounder and he's the goat. So only draft players in the 6th or only draft QBs in the 6th.....and irrelevant and such.... ________________________________________________________ Just a topic with many recent players drafted around 19, some happened to be WRs and they are among the elite playmakers. I do not want to pull a matt millen, said so many times..

I think the WR is among the top 1/3 compared to other groups. It would be about where a run is started, imo.

I was pointing out the caliber of player available at 19, man WR has some of the best that came from that zone. Even Ceedee Lamb at 17, he's a stud. 2025, 2024, 2020, 2023 all recent years all had great pay back in value terms. There will be around 4 WR available that the rank has them in the 19 range. Besides the OSU WR, so the #2 ranked WR maybe there for taking and recent drafts show he could be elite.

this seeding talk...

In one of the vids I watched, Drew had contact with UNC and turned down a meetings...... Jesus H Christ Michael was around 6 or even 7+ from public infro.... He's the waffle house 300Lb ham planet after the sober meal..... Im shocked at the type of coaches taking a pass. During the season some slimeball had to put out feelers about "Hey if Davis was let go, would you consider the HC job" Again piss poor planning by a school that has one viewpoint of itself and the outside one just told you "Nah, Im fine/happy at my poo-school, Ill pass" Any info on his coaching staff?

2016 Corey Coleman (No. 15, Browns) Will Fuller (No. 21, Texans) Josh Doctson (No. 22, Commanders) Laquon Treadwell (No. 23, Vikings) 2017 Corey Davis (No. 5, Titans) Mike Williams (No. 7, Chargers) John Ross (No. 9, Bengals) 2018 D.J. Moore (No. 24, Panthers) Calvin Ridley (No. 26, Falcons) 2019 Marquise Brown (No. 25, Ravens) N’Keal Harry (No. 32, Patriots) 2020 Henry Ruggs (No. 12, Raiders) Jerry Jeudy (No. 15, Broncos) CeeDee Lamb (No. 17, Cowboys) Jalen Reagor (No. 21, Eagles) Justin Jefferson (No. 22, Vikings) Brandon Aiyuk (No. 25, 49ers) 2021 Ja’Marr Chase (No. 5, Bengals) Jaylen Waddle (No. 6, Dolphins) DeVonta Smith (No. 10, Eagles) Kadarius Toney (No. 20, Giants) Rashod Bateman (No. 27, Ravens) 2022 Drake London (No. 8, Falcons) Garrett Wilson (No. 10, Jets) Chris Olive (No. 11, Saints) Jameson Williams (No. 12, Lions) Jahan Dotson (No. 16, Commanders) Treylon Burks (No. 18, Titans) 2023 Jaxon Smith-Njigba (No. 20, Seahawks) Quentin Johnson (No. 21, Chargers) Zay Flowers (No. 22, Ravens) Jordan Addison (No. 23, Vikings) 2024 Marvin Harrison Jr. (No. 4, Cardinals) Malik Nabers (No. 6, Giants) Rome Odense (No. 9, Bears) Brian Thomas Jr. (No. 23, Jaguars) Xavier Worthy (No. 28, Chiefs) Ricky Pearsall (No. 31, 49ers) Xavier Legette (No. 32, Panthers) 2025 Emeka Egbuka, Ohio State | Tampa Bay Buccaneers Round 1, Pick 19 Matthew Golden, Texas | Green Bay Packers Round 1, Pick 23 JJ was the best WR for a couple years, JSN was 20th and just signed a 42.5 million per deal. Ravens love Flowers. Egbuka was a strong OROY pick Seems like a great spot with these recent picks.......Best value has been WR....

false rumor, he's a team leader. No clue what he is worth.....Rico came off the streets for 2.5million and put him to #2 for weeks. I doubt a team would give much more than a late rounder. Like Frank said above, 5th would be tops and very lucky. He's got a fair contract and is well liked by players, coaches, and FO. No reason to trade.

The truth is @CarolinaLivin posted it and I took notice at the names and drove into the rabbit hole, just happen it lead to Plebbit. One of my favorite draft gurus loves KC, just that he's around other panther WRs that have struggled..I mean Im about the only XL supporter leftd. Im like 50/50, but honestly haven't done enough to feel strong either. The drop and zone stuff is not what I like the weakness to be, but he is explosive, play all 3 WR spots, and does have playmaking skills which is rare. Right now I wouldn't be upset if panthers used the 51st. Months ago I told the huddle to prepare for a early WR selection.

Even a tiger WR in the thick for me, I mean 2nd or 3rd for this guy. Heres a fluff vid and he's what the Panthers need in the slot....

here some more nerd stuff JSN is a 3.38 YPRR guy...... like I said the cut off is 2.3....anyone above 3 is elite. Zone is 70% of NFL D most times.

He maybe more of a slot or dynamic or whatever trigger draft word. His results against zone are the same as TMJ, mingo, and XL...... Plus Im sure you and my man @TD alt see the other bust among this this. Polk was traded for floor peanuts. Coleman, LOL do I need to post one of his fiddy stories?? Mims, bust, harry bigger bust.....I mean Jesus its petty bad how clear this is. Plus Panthers want Brian Thomas Jr and have called jags a few times....THUS this is their top profile for a WR....... No wonder the KC love. FYI you want a WR above 2.3.....thats the magic number and lemon is a 3.22 which is tops. There's other studs in the 3 range.....You know zone is like 70% of many teams base.... This guys can not figure it out and that's clear here.....

That and If there's a strong 50/50 split among two important groups. UDFA that's some brownie points, I heard " They were the only team to give me a 30, so I had to come here" Why not, what bugs me is each year they only use 27-28, Id make sure each year 30. Plus I would wear out the local loophole. How about this- the record falls this year!! Panthers will draft a tiger, witness me!!

brother I see 3 names near the top and KC is right there. I guess they maybe not the same, but this against zone...which is a _______ NFL D. You can draw your known thoughts.

My mistake about joker and Mike being bubs doing the turn. I did see where the GM and Mike hated each other at the end too.

Here is my current guess about the first round, I feel Proctor is in the 8-25 group. Id personally draft him as high as 5th overall and be very happy. Again I don't understand the hate and lollololollolllo @ the 2nd round talk and you are right there lots of it. You got Frank at everyone's #1, then my guess its bailey at #2, then a run of 4 OSU studs and now you are in fog of who or what is next. Love * should go no lower than 7th.....From that 8 pick to 25, its a mess. The whole draft doesn't have a good consensus like years before. Many players feel like 15 pick on this team board and 52nd pick on others.

I could be wrong and the team was turning toxic, (How??? they just won the championship???), But what I member Joker was upset and on his side. Again- win a unlikely championship, sign a new phatty contract, and within months fired?!?!? Honestly who cares, Joker is not coming with him..

his daughter plays volleyball at UNC.... I wonder who his assistants are going to be, this is about the only +++. I feel the old guard will force some heels on his staff.

I've already seen " stubborn, often sticking to his "guy" in crunch time and showing hesitation to trust younger players" oy vey ....sounds like the perfect college coach............

Rest easy, they have looked at every single draft eligible player.

Honestly before you posted your Bill Billacheat comment, I had the same thought.....Bill NFL goat is in town and football is king, switch is rough. I think joker was highly upset when Michael was fired and he did win a ring.....Still last college ball is 2001?!?!? Its a different world and just.........I know this tho, he will not do worse than Davis...... Very odd and no one had him on any rumor, weird times.....

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He seems to be a carbon copy of what the Panthers draft- TMJ, mingo, and XL....

I would beat the gross card run if Proctor was at 19. I feel he is the worst label player in this draft, I feel no chance he makes it out of the top ten, no memes or nothing. Just a bad run of giant men hurt his stock. This guy is different, 32.5 vert is insane for 355 LBs of player. He's got a better vert than many NBAers. Here look at the results, he would have tied for 5th among NBA rookies?!?!? https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility?sort=STANDING_VERTICAL_LEAP&dir=1&SeasonYear=2025-26 He's better than Kon, who's got a great 31.5. But his weight is 2x. One of these teams in the 15 will draft him, I just know it and Ive already offered ava forum bets to anyone who's who feels like Im talking crazy.

He's got the highest ceiling I know of. He also has a high bust factor. I mean this draft doesn't have the cream of recent ones, there are no Joe Alt, Witherspoon, or Carter. RB and QB have one gem, then a huge gap to the next, then a light year gap to the next group. You got Frank at everyone's #1, then my guess its bailey at #2, then a run of 4 OSU studs and now you are in fog of who or what is next. Love * should go no lower than 7th.....From that 8 pick to 25, its a mess. The whole draft doesn't have a good consensus like years before. Many players feel like 15 pick on this team board and 52nd pick on others.

I do have a new want- the DLman I want to be versatile maybe even able to play some edge in packages. Play all the spots within reason, maybe minus NT. I do feel the panthers will draft WR in the first or its at the highest odds. I want a lineman, but my job is not on the line. Only those GM who have job security at a high can draft future starters at early picks. I feel Dave and Dan had the 2018 tepper meeting.....he wants to Win.