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I really don't see how anyone can see this video as a negative. Yes it has to get through Panthers PR since they are the ones releasing it so I'm sure it only highlighted good things. You can tell this was Morgan's baby with previous input from Canales with his "he was the one we really liked" "he is one of us" comments. Morgan is literally explaining to Tepper the players they like and where they can get them. Tepper is the owner and will be in the War Room, but through the eyes of the video (yes that's a big disclaimer) it was Morgan's draft with Tillis helping him move around to get his guys. That's the way it should be. He brought the scouts in for the later round players.

What the hell is going on in this thread???

Tillis and Morgan work great together We definitely moved up for XL’s 5th year option Several teams had Brooks as RB1 Love seeing Morgan and apparently Taputu speak highly of Wallace Jewell and Shaq could be fun to watch together. I think Jewell is a low key great addition.

Hey if she made the picks, we would at least have Stroud.

I understand some excuses to argue a point, but to say we had THREE of the most renowned QB coaches last year is pretty much a straight fabrication of the truth….

Bryce also has a degree in psychology. He has an uncanny ability to compartmentalize things in a way that allows him to enter his second NFL season with optimism that he can still be the player who was worthy of being the No. 1 pick of the 2023 draft despite the kind of rookie year that has destroyed others in his position. Young credits that in part to his past. He graduated from the University of Alabama in three years with a degree in psychology. His father was a therapist in the mental health field for 20 years. His mother was a special education teacher, and his grandfather was a psychologist. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40334565/bryce-young-developing-leader-panthers-year-2

Maybe just made a thread for now?

We had 3 of the most renowned QB people in the league? I’m assuming you are talking about Caldwell who coached Manning briefly (after he was already good similar to Adam Gase who coached Darnold), and is the other one Reich who used old Rivers, old Ryan, and tried to fix Wentz but couldn’t do it. I have no clue who the 3rd guy could possibly be? I think you are just a Darnold fan because he has a big arm. So did Jamarcus Russell, and Ryan Leaf. Shanahan let him walk and O’Connell was desperate to draft a QB after signing Darnold because these coaches know he isn’t the solution. Temporary starter/backup is what Sam is. He just doesn’t have the football IQ to be a franchise guy. Most QBs don’t.

Oh it’s made the decision easier knowing we were years away from competing. He just obviously didn’t think it was some sort of clown show as he took a job with that staff and still hangs around to help. Injuries were the major concern. Willis retired “early” as well, plus there was another very young LB in SF that did. Positions that take a lot of impact are starting to not push themselves too late in their careers to protect their long term health.

Pretty polarizing. However, I think the point of this thread was QBs drafted #1 overall. Just showing how they typical struggle and go into bad situations.

If we are stuck worried about how much we have to pay him next year, it should mean a lot of good things happened on offense.

There are a bunch of solid FA options next year. I wonder if that will cause the market price to drop a bit. Right now it’s at a high and we aren’t 100% sure how good he will be in a different system plus how XL and Mingo develop. I’d wait until the offseason personally…

Mac Jones outshined Trevor Lawrence his rookie year. Now he is his backup. Let’s just see what happens and yes supporting cast and coaching matters. It’s what ultimately ruined Mac’s career and sustained Trevor’s.

He is still pretty involved with the current team. He retired for heath reasons or he would have simply asked for a trade. Retiring because you don’t trust the staff then immediately taking a job for that staff as a scout makes no sense….

Could be either. I’d say that having a shaky OL most of the year creates bad habits and bad footwork. Regardless he needs to get better here.

100%. He has a huge hole right here to step up in or just the off. Thats a learning curve college vs NFL thing IMO.

He also said Watson was the same way, but he could ball on Sunday and that's what counts. https://www.panthers.com/news/minicamp-notebook-diontae-johnson-creating-plays-and-competition I found it interesting how his opinion differs from Johnson, but it makes sense because Johnson has been on the field with Bryce longer and he plays offense so Young would be closer to him. "He embraced me, and I embraced him," Johnson said. "So, our relationship is steady growing every day. I try to be in his hip pocket; he's in my hip pocket for whatever play I need help with, or I try to tell him what I see when I'm out there running my routes. Little stuff like that, that's only going to continue to help us grow. "And I feel like he has that relationship with each and every one of us out there as a receiver group or any other position group out there. Just having that relationship with your quarterback so that you respect him and have trust in one another. So it's been going pretty good." (on a side note, I would have loved to see Clowney play with Cam)

I wonder if these Darnold people want us to give Bryce the 6-7 years the league has for Sam? I mean the team that signed Darnold this offseason immediately traded up to trade a QB because they know he isn’t the answer. You have to keep swinging for a QB until you land one.

Luke could have asked for a trade and continued to make millions of dollars. He walked away from the game because of injuries. He was wearing a neck collar to try to prevent future concussions because he knew they were going to eventually take their toll on his mind/body. Luke is still involved and in 2020 was a scout for Carolina. I don’t think he would have taken a scouting job if he thought he was working under a clown show. Patrick Willis also retired early as well and he was top of the league at the same position.

This. Well said and spot on!

There are plenty of great QBs who don’t talk trash and plenty of great ones that do. It doesn’t really matter as long as they can play on Sunday. That’s basically what Clowney said.

I’m just saying what Clowney said. He wants the QB to lead. He died by have to be a big talker as long as he shows up on Sunday.

Said he is going to be alright and isn’t a talker. Compares him to Watson who “could play on Sunday” despite not being a talker.

Don’t be a hater.