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To prevent the coping police let's just say Aaron Rodgers would be playing poorly in this offense. I know what you are saying though. The whole offense is a mess....

careful...

No doubt. Enjoyed the friendly banter. At the end of the day just trying to talk football about what another team did that has shown some immediate success because we might not see it for a while over here.

It’s not a Stroud/Young thing because there isn’t a contest right now. It’s a good job Houston post.

Stroud is legit, but Burrow couldn't do what he is doing his rookie year, Manning, Brees, name pretty much an HoF QB you want and they couldn't dream of having a rookie year like he is. Part of that is Stroud, but also part of that is Houston for building a roster that has allowed him to show his skills and throw these WRs open that can take it to the house. The Schultz pick up was a great move for example, cheaper and better than Hurst. Their LT Tunsil is playing in a scheme that fits him and looks great. They flipped Watson (who now can't stay healthy) for 3 1st round picks. Dell looks to be a steal (props to Stroud for recommending him),and Collins is making a leap. The Texans OC is letting Stroud be Stroud and it's paying dividends for him. Yeah people were wrong about the Texans roster vs ours, but a lot of people wanted Young over Stroud as well. Talking heads included. People are wrong all the time about teams/players before the season starts. It's not an insult to Stroud or trying to prop Young up, it's complimenting the Texans with Stroud for building a solid young team around him.

My point is even their weakness is still better than our running game. When was the last time we had a RB drop 150 and a TD. They are adapting and getting better we are doing the opposite. I will say Stroud's success passing is probably opening up their running game as well. Again do you think Fitt did an equal or better job than their GM? This isn't a Young cope as much as it's a Fitt/Tepper/whoever built this roster insult. Maybe that can let you give an honest opinion without having to defend Young. Trying to have an actual football discussion with the cope trolls rolling in.

Coping must be the word of the year for you. First of all 25 is better than 27 and secondly he just had his running back drop 150 and a TD in a game where he had 3 turnovers which absolutely helped them win. Their defense also forced Burrow into several turnovers. Stroud is better than Young that's proven now so not sure where the "coping" is coming from other than that's just a word you use when someone has a different opinion. Again Stroud is special and I wish he was here, but he would find it more difficult here than in Houston without a doubt. So you genuinely think Fitt and his squad built a better roster for their QB than Caserio did? I think you know better than that. Caserio is a leading candidate for Executive of the Year. In summary Stroud is great, but also give their staff and HC some credit as well. Great job all around by Houston.

Even if they wanted Young there are limits to that want. They weren’t going to pay out to move up one spot, especially when you have someone like Stroud sitting there at two. They preferred one no doubt but we’re willing to pick whoever dropped and use some assets to trade back up for Anderson. QB2 plus Anderson was better than QB1 and no Anderson. We absolutely overpaid for Young and left him with nothing on offense. We gave up too much, picked the lesser of the 2 QBs, and put him in a worse spot. Great job Carolina…

Looks like the author throws up 3 different theories. The only thing we definitely know is they didn’t agree with the value of trading up to 1. Alas, the Texans averted from the plan in place. Clearly, they either believed the Panthers would take Young and they could get their guy with the No. 2 pick. Or, they were satisfied with drafting whoever the Panthers didn't take at quarterback. Maybe, however, they weren't satisfied with the price they would have to pay in the trade.

He has said he doesn’t get paid by Carolina. Whether it’s true or not is just guessing. You have to think he was all about Young and Mingo so naturally he is going to be pretty defensive about their play.

Ground player of the week is Singletary. Yeah I’d love for one of our RBs to do that. Stroud can be currently better than Young AND be in a better situation. Both things can be true despite what people want to believe.

Are we doing the Arby’s package Wilks installed last year? Maybe that will slow down Parsons…

God I hope so. His last few games were pretty bad and they can’t use the scheme excuse for him because he was drafted after we picked Young…

I really don't understand the argument. If Dalton can do that every game then he would have an historic season. So is the argument Fitt did a great job with this roster and Reich is such a great play caller that they can make Dalton look awesome and our only issue is Young is so terrible he ruins this great team? OR maybe just maybe Seattle was an outlier and we went all in on passing the ball due to their secondary being in shambles which still resulted in 6.2 YPA and 27 points in a loss...

Nah according to the sample size of 1 Dalton is good for 361 yards 2 TDs and 0 INTS. Average that out over 17 games and he is great. 6137 yards, 34 TDs, and 0 INTs. All variables aside since that how we are looking at it. We have ourselves a GOAT!

The Seattle game was 20-37 and Seattle played prevent with a banged up secondary. Dalton threw his last TD to AT with 1:40 left it's also where a chunk of his yards came from (75 yard drive). YPA tell the story more than total yards. We threw it 58 times that game, unless you are wanting 5 YPA (which Bryce gets when he is playing terrible) then you better have over 300 yards. 6.22 is where Dalton landed that game. So if Young scores early the defense is asleep, if it's late it's because it's prevent defense? Dalton's TD under the last 2 minutes while being down by 17 counts right, or was that prevent defense too? I'm trying to take notes so I can follow... At the end of the day the goal of the offense is to score points. Young's TOs against Detroit are fair game but Miami still sits as is.

We were too one dimensional (probably because Seattle's secondary was banged up) to sustain any kind of success. Throwing the ball 58 times for 27 points and a loss isn't ideal for any team much less a QB that is over the hill...

I'm not sure Caldwell wants it. He is mainly just an advisor at this point...

It was a good game by Dalton, but I mean his average YPA was meh (just like Young's). We put up 27 points which is our highest but Young put up 24 and 21 his last two games before Brown took over play calling in half the amount of attempts. I get that points are points but you are talking about a 3 point swing from Young's best game. I'd rather keep letting the rookie get reps to see if he can get better or not. A couple extra wins with Dalton doesn't do much for us. Plus Dalton had some good games last year with NO and some stinkers. It's kind of where he is at now in his career.

Yeah he knows his days are numbered. It's a panic move.

So it went from Ryans set up his team to better help his QB to people saying Stroud has an all star cast? No one thinks Houston has an "All Star cast" on here, but it's hard to argue Houston has done a better job building a more complete team than we have. I mean the whole NFL has done a better job. Just like it's hard to argue against Stroud being the better QB right now. Neither one are particularly close IMO.

I'd be ok with Hollywood Brown. We will probably have to overpay though...