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I mean we are showing "consensus" big boards that back up what we are saying. You came in crowing about a former GM liking Stroud and acting like it was debunking anyone who said Bryce was ranked at the top QB before the draft. That's just not really how it works... It's a silly argument because it's irrelevant where they were projected or ranked before the draft. Remember Mitch was drafted over Mahomes and people had him ranked higher.

toxicity or cope- both are used against each other over and over again.

Here is another consensus big board for these people in denial. Again this doesn't mean they were right as they were not. https://theathletic.com/4377450/2023/04/04/nfl-draft-big-board-prospects/ -For the record Dane Brugler (who I like a lot) had Stroud as the better prospect in his personal rankings.

Of the 3 links you posted 1 had Young at 4 (highest QB) and Stroud at 6. One literally said it could be Young or Stroud as QB1. You found 3 links in which one was a wash, one had Young as QB1, and one had Stroud. These aren't just mocks, it's big boards and player rankings. You can't change history man whether it was wrong or right.

You really want to go down this road? The links that were already posted had 70 plus in one and a lot more in the other. It’s all been compiled. You are better off saying you didn’t know what the word meant and the experts were wrong which happens a lot. Hell they had Willis showing up on draft day and falling to the 3rd.

I still preferred Stroud, but I was always ok with Young. Stroud was always the safer pick with a high ceiling. At worst he was a Goff with a Burrow ceiling. Also I hope the S2 never makes an appearance again. Stroud hopefully ruined its credibility forever.

No one saying they are right. We just can’t pretend like this wasn’t the case because he was more than not the top ranked QB.

Consensus by the same analyst/commentators/former scouts/coaches/GMs that ranked Lawrence, Luck, Burrow, and yes busts like Russell as the top QB of their class. There are several links on here that consolidate multiple opinions. It’s just a majority of them not all. I’m glad you brought up Simms as he had Wilson as his QB1 over Lawrence, that doesn’t mean Lawrence wasn’t the consensus QB1 in that draft. For every one that doesn’t have Young as the top QB there are four that do. This in no way validates him or the struggles he is having these guys are wrong a lot. QB success in the NFL is very tough to predict.

Google 2023 Big boards or player rankings. It’s not that big of a deal as they aren’t always right, but we can’t simply deny history because we hate the decision.

It's now so bad that some people won't acknowledge his pre-draft grades/rankings. You can't change history people he was ranked overall as the top QB prospect. That doesn't mean it was right, but it is something people should probably simply acknowledge otherwise you look foolish. It just kind of makes the whole narrative of Tepper forcing a random QB on this team seem a little exaggerated though...

That hamstring just flared up as we signed him.

We signed Shaquill Griffin https://nfltraderumors.co/panthers-claim-cb-shaquill-griffin-off-waivers-from-texans/

I don't think McDaniel did under Shanahan either, so who knows?

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2023-nfl-draft-industry-consensus-big-board/

So a failed GM wanted Stroud and a failed HC wanted Young.

Here is an estimate of how the 25 QB class might look. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/quinn-ewers-shedeur-sanders-headline-2025-nfl-draft-qb-class/

The Ravens were never going to let Lamar walk. They were just playing some hard ball. If anyone made an offer they would throw money his way and get a deal done. They are too smart of a franchise to let him go like that.

He wasn’t really here long enough for these guys to have that strong of a bond with him. That’s why no one really cares.

Sanders might not declare this year. Let’s wait and see the final list.

100%

Yeah they are running wild with these guesses. Tepper and Reich have plenty of issues without the media trying to create more. My guess is he did incorporate some RPO, I mean I saw a few ran on Sunday, but didn’t dial it up nearly enough before it didn’t flow with what he was calling on the field.

Meddling or not Ron, Rhule, and Reich were the wrong guys. The biggest issue about Tepper’s patience is how over eager he is to find his QB. Teddy, Darnold, Corral, Mayfield (honestly Baker’s trade was solid) the trade up for Young all cost us valuable resources and we still might not have it right. Outside of that he clearly has a hiring problem. He needs to just hire Colbert to oversee this next hiring process.

Let’s see if Zavala jumped anyone this week? Nope, still dead last! Maybe next week on Zavala and Company…

Classic Zavala…

Didn’t he flat out say he isn’t on their payroll in an earlier podcast?