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I get what you're saying. But, I didn't see Sam make any really risky throws yesterday. He didn't make any throws "yesterday" that Teddy couldn't have made. I just several really bad one throws and missed chances. Those INT's were off target/behind the receiver. He also missed some down the field opportunities. I only made my point because we wouldn't have had to give up a 2nd choice if we had kept Teddy, thus giving us more draft capital going forward. That said, I never have thought Teddy B was a franchise QB.

I'm not a big Bridgewater fan. But, I do think he would have made some of the throws that Sam missed and he wouldn't have walked off the field with 3 INTs. I actually would have been cool riding with Teddy for another year and using the 2022 draft to find our franchise QB. If he panned out, the new guy could've been handled the reigns midway thru the 2022 season or at the start of 2023. That said, I think it still too early to throw the towel in on Darnold. In our last 9 games we've only scored 17 points in the 3rd quarter. That problem began before Darnold joined the team. The Panther just seem to lose all of their offensive momentum when they come out of the locker room at halftime. That's not all on the QB. Yesterday's game is not included. Behold the carnage: https://www.derp/2021/10/5/22710073/why-is-the-panthers-offense-under-joe-brady-so-bad-in-the-third-quarter Panthers third quarter performance Year Week Opponent Panthers Pts Opponent Pts 2020 14 Broncos 3 12 2020 15 Packers 7 0 2020 16 Football Team 0 3 2020 17 Saints 0 10 2021 1 Jets 0 8 2021 2 Saints 0 0 2021 3 Texans 7 0 2021 4 Cowboys 0 20 Total 17 53

I'm extremely disappointed by today's game. I'm just glad that I watched it at the office and was able to get some work done while the TV was on. I'm surprised they lost to an inferior team, but not really shocked. I've known since the season began that we're not good enough to challenge the upper echelon teams for a NFC title. Without out MacCaffrey, we are an average/below average team. After today's fiasco I'd be happy if were in contention for a playoff spot at the end of the season. We started off kind of strong last season and wilted. I can see the same thing happening this year. We need more talent on our woeful offensive line. We really could use a difference maker at linebacker and FS. I don't think we really get much push on our pass rushes with our DT's. And quite frankly, Darnold needs to step up his game. He has potential. I don't regret the trade. But, he's missing too many open throws and the INT's seem to result from him throwing behind the receivers. I've always felt 2022 would be the year we make a statement. I'd be content if we can remain competitive despite our weaknesses this season. Then during the off-season Rhule and Fitz will make it a top priority t fix the apparent weakeness. If we don't see a guy who we think is worthy of the a high draft pick, then I understand the trade down philosophy. But, if I stud LT, C, or FS is on the board when we're up and he fits our scheme then we need to pick him ASAP.

https://www.derp/2021/10/5/22710073/why-is-the-panthers-offense-under-joe-brady-so-bad-in-the-third-quarter This article was written after the Dallas game. But it brought out something that can't be ignored...especially after today's lackluster 2nd half. I'll quote part of it below. "...over the last eight games the Panthers offense has been terrible in the third quarter, producing just 17 total points over that stretch." Behold the carnage: Panthers third quarter performance Year Week Opponent Panthers Pts Opponent Pts 2020 14 Broncos 3 12 2020 15 Packers 7 0 2020 16 Football Team 0 3 2020 17 Saints 0 10 2021 1 Jets 0 8 2021 2 Saints 0 0 2021 3 Texans 7 0 2021 4 Cowboys 0 20 Total 17 53 "That’s an average of 2.1 points per third quarter, or just over eight points per game at that rate. To get even more granular, Carolina’s offense has scored an anemic seven points over their last six third quarters." And as I pointed out earlier that doesn't include the game we gave away today. If you factor it into the numbers our points per 3rd quarter would be lower since we didn't score a point...AGAIN. I know Brady has a desire to be head coach. I think it would be wise to let him pursue every opportunity available to him. Of course, if rest of the NFL is already hip to the statistics above (and the current trend continues) then I can't see any team hiring him in the off-season

I agree to not liking the the "personal stuff" we often see posted forums (not just this one I might add). The 3 positions on a football field that tend to stand out the most when you mess up are QB, CB, and OT. I also think these are the 3 hardest postiions to play on a football field. I don't think it's hard to understand why these are 3 of the highest compensated positions in the NFL. Only a few people on the earth at ay given time have the talent to consistently excel at these positions. I'm all for legitimately critiquing a player, but some of the comments can get a bit too personal for my liking. Most professionals are trying hard so I give them props for going out to do their jobs each week in front of thousands of frantic fans. We all know Remmers had a bad SuperBowl game, but I still blame most of that on subpar coaching. Had we schemed a bit better we could have won that game. Let's not forget that even the Bronco players after the SB were saying "They didn't change a thing they did" from the regular season. We made no adjustments during that game and it came back to bite us.

Are you a prophet? How did you know I ended up marrying (but later divorced) the female mentioned in the post? Anyways, the answer to your question is "No". She wasn't wearing jeans. This date took place on a Saturday night. We may have had a problem though if it were a "Jeans day" Friday.

I've never met a Panther player despite living in Spartanburg. But, I did bump into Jerry Richardson at the Marriott Hotel (circa 2004-2005). I was out on a date and He walked in with his wife. I said to my date "That looks like Jerry Richardson". She replied "Who's that?". She had no idea who he was. I told her "He owns the Panthers" Just then he walked by. I said "Mr. Richardson" He stopped and said "Yes?" I told him that I just wanted to say hello. He smiled at me and extended his hand. After our handshake we went our separate ways with our significant others. It wasn't and earth shattering event. Im sure Mr.Richasrdson has no memory of it . I had actually forgotten about it myself until I saw some of your posts. He did seem like a pleasant guy.

I’ll post more about this game later. For now I’ll say I’m disappointed but not surprised. Too loose on the road to Dallas by one score without your best cornerback and best offensive player is nothing to be ashamed of. I also thought our defense was being a little overhyped too. We could have given up when we were down 36-14. Everything went wrong in the 3rd quarter…and we still had a chance to win this game. I think this game is going to be a great learning experience for the team. Rhule and Fitz now see just how bad our Oline is and will make it a priority to fix it. The defense will come back down to earth and realize they have to get better. And, the team as a whole showed that they aren’t quitters. I think we are year, perhaps two years, away from being a a perennial Super Bowl threat in the NFC.

I don’t want Dak to get hurt. But, somebody needs to get a good lick on him to mark him think twice about leaving that pocket

We almost got a break with that “fumble”, but that call needs to be reversed. I thought he was already down when it came out the first time I saw the play.

This game is gonna be fun. I don’t think either team is going to be able to stop the other. If this game is close at the start of the 4th quarter, the last team with the ball will probably win.

You can already tell this is Dallas team is better offensively than anyone we’ve faced so far. I’m a diehard Panther, but even I was getting tired of hearing how great our defense is this year. We haven’t faced an good to great offense this season. We’ll have a better idea of how we good we are after this game. If we hold Dallas to 24 or less I’ll be impressed.

I wasn't upset/offended by that comment. Sure, it was a business decision. But, he was still packaged in a deal and sent packing after signing a deal just a few months ago. According to Shaqattaq's post "Jacksonville specifically asked for him". That has to make him feel valued as a player. I can't help but think our own Sam Darnold had similiar feelings after being traded to the Panthers. The Jets did the same thing to him that we just did to Arnold. They thought they could get better in the long run by moving him....so, it was a business decision. All that said, I think we'll end up getting the better end of the deal if CJ Henderson plays up to his potential.

We should have better understanding of just how good our defense is when we travel to Dallas next week. If we can contain Zeke Elliot and Dak Prescott on the road I'll feel a lot better about our defense.

I'd like to see the guy excel in the league. I realize most of the great QB's in the league are high draft choices, but it's always good to see QB's make a good showing who come out after the 1st round.

I was also impressed with Mills last night. 1) He was starting his first game, 2) He started on short notice because of Tyrod's injury 3) The game was a on Thursday night during prime time. 4) He was going against one of the best pass rushes in the NFL. Despite that, he didn't look overwhelmed. I think he would have played much better if he had better pass protection. Based on what I saw last night, he definitely was worth a 3rd round pick and could become a solid starter/backup with more seasoning and a better team around him. But, let's keep real...He can't sling it like Zach Wilson.

Is DJ hurt too? I’m having to watch the game on my phone. I’m having a bit of a delay plus I’m doing a couple of other things. I saw him sitting on the ground and he appeared to be getting work on.

I think the 16 game season was perfect. I hated to see the 17th game addition. But, after tonight I can’t help but wonder if the players would be healthier playing 18 games with a 2 bye weeks than having a Thursday night game every week making almost every team play at least 1 game on 3 days rest.

I had just finished texting some grad school buddies about this topic when I saw your post. We all feel the same as you.

What would you trade to recoup the 2nd round choice? Unless I'm wrong we only have 1 choice in the 1st round this year. I can't see us trading out of our 1st round slot unless we could get a later choice in the same round & that team's 2nd round pick as well. Unless the bottom fails out in the 2nd half of the season this team could very well end up competing for a playoff spot which puts our draft pick in the late teens or early 20's. I can't see anyone making the deal I just outlined above...unless they're really desperate to move up...which of course could happen.

In theory you are absolutely right. However, you know how the draft is in some years. Some classes have great lineman. Other years the talent isn't quite as good. I'd hate to take a LT (or center)out of desperation like we did with Little in the 2nd round a couple of years ago. I have a feeling we ain't gonna be drafting in the top 10 this year. The best LT's "could be gone" by the time we're on the clock. If a stud guard is on the board and he's better highest ranked remaining Center or LT, I'd be in favor of taking the guard...unless we had a more pressing need at another position.

A lot of people think this may be a bit drastic. But, I definitely understand your point of view. With the exception of RT, we could literally draft the best offensive lineman at any position in the 1st round (especially in the interior as you mentioned) of the 2022 draft and have an immediate improvement on the O-line. I don't think this is the year to get cute by trading back to acquire more choices if you have a shot to get a blue chip interior lineman in the 1st (or early 2nd) round. Moton is under contract now with a solid deal. If we can get Christensen ready to start (at either LT or G), we could double dip on lineman early in the draft and have literally have 4 starters on rookie contracts for 3 consecutive seasons.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WildJa00.htm Click on the link to see James Wilder's career stats. He had two great seasons back to back at ages 26 and 27. He had 492 touches in 1984 and 418 in 1985. He started all 16 games and rushed for over a 1,000 yards in both seasons. He also had 138 receptions over that period. After 1985, there's a drastic drop-off. 1) Never eclipsed 250 touches after 85'. After 86' he never eclipsed 150 before he retired in 90' 2) Never started 16 games again 3) Never rushed for more than 704 after 85, and never passed 500 after 86. 4) After having 138 receptions in 1984-85, he only had 135 receptions over the next 5 seasons of his career. Wilder wasn't the same type of back as Christian. He was more of an Eddie George type at 6-3/225. i didn't see him play much with Tampa because the Bucs weren't on TV much in SC back in the mid 80's but he was never as shifty as CMac and had an upright running style so he took a lot of hits. He was also older than Christian is now when he had is two great seasons. But it's pretty clear that the heavy work load he had in 1984-1985 caught up with him pretty quickly. We need need to get Chuba and Royce up to speed blend them into the offense as quickly as possible.

Carolina has too much talent in their backfield for Christian to be getting over 90% of the RB touches (carries and receptions) week in and week out. Years ago when he was with the Cowboys, Tony Dorsett (a small back like Christian) said Tom Landry rarely let him carry the ball more than 20 times a game. People who remember that era will recall that he shared carries with Robert Newhouse , Preston Pearson, and Ron Springs. In fact he was often on the bench early in his career for 3rd down and Pearson came in as a 3rd down specialty back. Dorsett said he resented it earlier in his career, but he realized later that it prolonged his career. I'm not saying Christian should be used exactly the same way, but Howard should be able to get 8-10 carries a game (approximately 2 per quarter) to lighten the load without really limiting the effectiveness of MacCaffrey. The latter is so talented, you could play them both at the same time by putting him in the slot and lining Howard up at TB (or vice versa to mix things up). 30 touches a game over a 17 game season could end up being a disaster in the making.

I feel the salary cap biased toward QB's has had a lot to do with my decreased interest. I believe the QB position should be the highest paid position in general. But, a QB's success is very dependent on the team surrounding him. 1) A poor offensive line will get even the best QB killed 2) Crappy receiving options limits a QB's effectiveness 3) A poor running game results in too many attempts which increases the risk of sacks/QB hits and INT'S. 4) A poor defense will almost always catch up to even the best offenses in the postseason. Dak Prescott balled last night. He'll probably throw for 35-40 TD's and 5,000 yards this year...and the Cowboys will struggle to make the playoffs because that defense doesn't make stops when it matters. Yet, QB's are almost making twice as much on average from any other position in the NFL. You can't afford to have a solid playmaker at each level of the defense like you could back in the day once your QB gets past his rookie deal. The NFL seems to aiming for a league where every team has a high priced QB to sling the ball game in and game out; and have him face defenses with almost no chance of holding him below 25-28 points per game.