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Me too

Physical defense and run game was our identity. Ironically, Richardson modeled it after the Steelers only for Tepper to dismantle it. While the game did tilt more in favor of passing offenses, you can see that without a run game and physical defense you can't win in the NFL. Dolphins are a prime example

This may be a good thing. I would rather start Brady C.

What sins? Dude got cancelled for commenting on women’s jeans

When I think of why Gruden hates Carolina it goes back to the 2003 season, Bucs were defending SB champs and the young Panthers block a PAT attempt and beat them in OT to best them in Week 1 and beat them again later that year. It signaled the end of Bucs dominance in the division. Even though Panthers were up and down every year, the 2008 double trouble game was just the culmination of dominating the Bucs (9-3 vs Bucs from 2003-2008) and ending Gruden’s tenure as their head coach. He never recovered.

Lol we get it you hate Bryce so much that even when he makes tough throws it’s not him it’s the receivers. But when they lose it’s all him. I think we got it you don’t have to repeat yourself

Exactly! What does that tell you?

Nah you should give it a rest, nobody said that Bryce is better

I hope it’s not career ending

Elite. Prayers for Tank Dell that looks bad

What a TD throw by Stroud

chill buddy, it’s a joke. Just saying other people make jump passes it’s not a bad thing unless you’re short apparently

Stroud is struggling right now Wait did I just see a jump pass by Stroud on that interception? Bryce would get crucified lol

Mahomes has really had a pedestrian year by his standards despite the Chiefs record

This is a badge of honor. I miss the days when we had a team and players that other teams feared or hated.

I don’t have any doubts Stroud is a franchise QB. Only points to make is that he wouldn’t look nearly as good on the Panthers due to lack of weapons, especially last year. Conversely Bryce would have done much better with the Texans and looked like a franchise QB but I don’t think he would have broken records like Stroud who is the better prospect overall.

Cousins is cooked

If we judge him on his performance since he got benched. How is one bad game two steps back if he progressed for 5-6 weeks straight?

Maybe, or maybe they're also not scared of the receivers they're facing. I don't know that we saw a bunch of receivers open downfield that Young is not able to hit.

I guess last few games he did just that, elevated the players around him and made them competitive in close games which they should have won if not for mistakes of the defense or supporting cast. At some point you have to have starting level talent even if they're not all pro. The future looks promising with Coker, JT, and maybe even XL but they're rookies. Barring a significant upgrade being available to us in the draft or free agency, I'm willing to play it out another year. This team is not a QB away anyway.

Which is why I think he probably gets another year regardless, just not a good year to draft another QB but they may draft one in later rounds or sign a FA to compete.

Agreed, Drake Maye is an example where size, ability to run, and having a strong arm allows you to overcome more obstacles just like Cam Newton. Of all the QBs drafted this year, he has the most upside and I think will have the most success long term if the Pats can figure our their roster issues.

He showed growth and progression for 5 straight games prior to last week. I think next few games will be telling, but I'm not sure what his ceiling may be. All I'm saying is he did some really good things, showed that he can play against the blitz, carry the team on game tying or potential game winning drives... the jury is still out. I wish he would have had Tank Dell, Nico Collins, Hunter Henry, Malik Nabers and other young receivers to be fairly evaluated. I was out on Bryce after week 2 because he looked like he was ruined, no confidence, scared of the pressure, not keeping his eyes downfield. Even in the loss last week he didn't seem to revert back to that mindset despite the turnovers. I think he needs at least one more weapon in addition to Coker hopefully being the next Puka Nacua.

No doubt, Drake Maye looks like the better prospect and I always thought he would project well to the NFL ever since I saw him 3 years ago at Carolina. But he's also in a better situation both in terms of roster and coaching his first year.

I think it paints exactly the full picture - they're not good enough to sniff the field and targets on other teams.