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100% agree, he was my top choice from the beginning but I'm still rooting for Bryce to do his thing. But CJ was the clear cut top choice based on both his physical abilities and tape in college. I was a little caught off guard how quickly he's ascended with the Texans though, especially as a leader. He seems a lot more mature than just a few months ago.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/c-j-stroud-i-dont-think-bryce-young-is-playing-badly-in-any-way-aspect-or-form Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud will be linked as the No. 1 and No. 2 picks of the 2023 draft for the rest of their careers. But they are also good friends, as evidenced by their reactions to one another being selected by the Panthers and Texans. “That’s my brother, man,” Stroud said in his Wednesday press conference. “Someone I have a lot of respect for — known him since like middle school. Got really close, probably after high school, and [I’m] always rooting for him. I know he’s always rooting for me.” Well, maybe not this week. The two will meet for the first time as NFL players this Sunday when Carolina plays Houston. Stroud said it’s “really cool” to be able to go against Young as pros. “It’s a blessing to just know that we are from the same area — grew up knowing each other and then our parents know each other,” Stroud said. “Our moms are really close. Our dads know each other. “It’s cool just to see somebody just as their journey has gone from high school to college to now into the league. It’s a blessing to have a brother like that to go through the same type of struggle, same type of pressures — the things like that. We talk a lot about that stuff in the offseason and things like that, so it’s a blessing to have someone like that in my life.” While the Stroud and the Texans have had much better in-season results through six games than Young and the Panthers, Stroud defended the way his friend has performed. “Honestly and personally, watching the film and watching every game of his, I don’t think in any way, aspect, or form, he’s playing bad,” Stroud said. “That’s what people think if you’re not winning or you have a turnover here or there. Bryce is playing some really good football. I just don’t think people watch in depth — like if you’re a quarterback, you know. I think he’s playing really well. “Of course, there’s always things you can clean up. I can clean up a lot of things. I’m not here to be his coach — I’m here just to support. We texted a couple of weeks ago, just checking in on each other and it was nothing about football. That’s not our relationship, but personally, I think he’s playing well and I think he’ll continue to be great in this game because he has that swagger and mentality and that type of playing style.” Stroud has completed 60 percent of his passes for 1,660 yards with nine touchdowns and an interception so far this season. Young has completed 63 percent of his throws for 967 yards with six touchdowns and four picks in five games. We’ll see who comes out on top on Sunday. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/c-j-stroud-i-dont-think-bryce-young-is-playing-badly-in-any-way-aspect-or-form

Steve Smith is the only one I can remember. He was seen as just a potential returner coming out of college.

True - but he's no DJ Moore replacement as was kind of sold to us.

The scouting report on him coming out of college was that he wasn't great at creating separation, was just really good at catching contested balls and running after the catch. From NFL.com Big, strong slot receiver possessing the mental and physical toughness to outperform his speed limitations. The career production is nothing special, but it’s clear he’s put time and effort into his craft. He runs crisp, well-paced routes and ramps up his focus when it’s time to go get the football. A lack of separation burst and long speed could make for more contested catches, but he has the body type and willingness for that work. Mingo can get tough yards after the catch and is an above-average blocker. He has the skill level and demeanor to become a starting slot receiver for teams using 11 personnel (three WRs) as their base offense.

I'm not OK with trading Luvu. Are you guys?

Ok, in that case we're going 11 - 0 the rest of the schedule.

This thread coming from a mod is a disgrace, why is it pinned?

How the hell did Panthers lose to Saints and Falcons?

Top post mate

Pat killed it. His points about Frank Reich were spot on

Ridiculous. Defense can’t stop anyone in the run game and that has nothing to do with the offense. Getting gassed is a convenient excuse. Top defenses get it done

Exactly I am not saying “we” for anything anymore. These idiots need to own it

Bears head coach Matt Eberflus made an addition to his staff on Monday. Eberflus announced that the Bears hired Phil Snow as their defensive analyst. Eberflus has been serving as the team’s defensive coordinator since Alan Williams resigned and he said last week that he was looking to bring on an experienced coach to help on that side of the ball. Snow was the Panthers defensive coordinator under Matt Rhule from 2020 until Rhule was fired last season. Snow also ran Rhule’s defenses at Temple and Baylor, but did not join Rhule’s staff at Nebraska this year. Snow also worked as an assistant for Rod Marinelli with the Lions and Marinelli is a mentor to Eberflus. “He’ll be here Monday giving us those reports, Tuesday giving us those reports as we do our game planning, and then he’ll be certainly helpful to our defensive staff,” Eberflus said, via Patrick Finley of the Chicago Sun-Times. The Bears are 29th in points allowed and 25th in yards allowed this season, but they allowed the fewest in each category during their Week Six loss to the Vikings. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/bears-hire-phil-snow-as-a-defensive-analyst

Is it? Defense gave up 40+ points in two straight games

Haha that's not happening

It would be the Tepper thing to do

I think we can just say the team has not played complimentary football. It's so much about momentum and it seems when our defense needs the offense to maintain a drive or two, they're unable to do. I think since the defensive injuries it's mostly been defense that is unable to create the stops when they're really needed.

Through 6 games, Panthers would lead the NFC South in following categories 1. Points scored (112) 2. Points against (186) You look at our board and we focus so much on offensive problems but our defense has been extremely poor

6 games too late, some of us were calling for it in preseason

I wouldn't get my hopes up, but hopefully it will improve the rhythm of the offense and not have to wait for Reich's old ass to decide what he wants to call.

So you're blaming Bryce for throwing the ball away instead of taking a sack. yes he needs more time to throw because his receivers have below average separation and need more time to get open.

air yards or from scrimmage? air yards - clearly yes just from this chart, but from scrimmage I can't think of any

I saw that, much improved, just want to see some green dots 20+ yards next time. But most of that is on lack of protection

100%. He had to release it early