45catfan

Herbert was always a top 10 pick in most respected circles; top 5 as the draft drew nearer. Some had him going ahead of Tua and others didn't. I wasn't the biggest Herbert fan either, but I knew he was a top 10 pick. Murray had the talent, his size was his biggest, and frankly only real knock. Yeah, just about everyone whiffed on Mahomes. How often does a Mahomes-type prospect come around though? Again, this 2022 class in one the weaker ones for QB in recent memory. Reaching out of need...ESPECIALLY for a make or break position like QB is organizational suicide. Anyways carry on, sorry I interrupted y'alls QB pipe dream.

Lol, I know right? Talk about reaching for a need.

Except this year's QB crop is subpar. None of these QBs could hold those dude's jock straps. Wishing for a franchise QB isn't going to make it so. If we had a shot at a Burrow/Herbert/Murray prospect, then sure. Please tell which of these guys are going to be anywhere close to those three? My favorite draft site doesn't have ANY QB in the 2022 class in his top 10....NONE.

Not this quick. Gruden has to rebuild his reputation and that is going to take a few years. I don't think Rhule has that long. Hopefully the next HC does well enough that he won't need to be replaced for a long time.

Guys, Brady can't take the playbook with him. It's just someone else is going to be calling the plays from the same playbook. The plays themselves weren't necessarily the problem, it was what plays were being called at what time was the main issue with Joe.

Any former notable NFL coaches in the college ranks that would be willing to make their way back to the NFL? I'm not taking about quality control-types or assistants to assistant coaches. I'm talking like Pete Carroll when he left college to come back to the NFL to take the Seahawk's gig. I'm a causal college football guy until draft season, so I'm not fully up on the college coaching landscape other than what's in the headlines.

Also, ZERO comp picks this draft as well. The Panthers drafting a rookie QB this year is along the logic of a house burning down and the homeowner starts mowing the grass to keep up the curb appeal. The devastation is so blatantly obvious, but doing this one thing might put a little shine on that turd,

I can't believe this thread is still going on considering we only have 1 pick on the first two days, in a weak QB class and an OL that smells of rotten garbage. Sure, let's keep talking about drafting a rookie QB! I get the Howell homers getting the fuzzies about the thought of drafting him, but it's not going to happen.

We could only hope. The Falcons, while still losing, have been competitive of late. We rarely sweep them and I think a home loss to to a sub-.500 team should be the final straw. Plus, firing Rhule this early gives us a leg up in the next search. Waiting until the end of the season puts us in the same pool as all the other teams needing head coaches. My worry is we actually beat the Falcons and Rhule gets a life line that needlessly prolongs his tenure. My two biggest wants right now is Rhule gone and the highest draft position we can get. Losing out accomplishes both. A meaningless win or two screws up one, possibly both of those.

Inside is easier to fix than outside. Guards are a dime a dozen, franchise left tackles aren't. Get the LT and C then some decent guards and the OL is fixed.

We NEED one of the top two OTs.

So the only way to move up in the division is not play, therefore, we can't lose?

Edit: Wrong thread, lol!

This was a .500 team on average, the non-winning seasons were generally 7-9 and at least competitive. Take out Fox's lame duck season backed by Rivera's rookie year and this was a decent franchise, no fewer that 7 wins. We'll be lucky to get 7 wins this year. I was never a Marty fan, 1.0 or 2.0, but I seriously doubt Richardson would have kept Marty around if the wheels came completely off, say, like scenario we are in right now.

The flaw in your logic is the Bucs play us twice.

Did Gantt also foresee Jerry firing his own kids? Beat reporters (as he was at the time) think they know everything. Jerry would not have endured this mess we are in now. How I miss having losing seasons every other season. Mediocrity? I'd love to get back there.

While the math checks out someone needs their head checked if they think Tom Brady will end the season on a 5-game skid with the playoffs on the line. There's wishful (ignorant) thinking and then there's delusional fantasy. One is homer-ism to the 10th power and the other is need of a professional shrink.

I honestly believe if Jerry had weathered the storm, Hurney was on a short leash and would be gone by now. Remember, Richardson fired his own kids, so as well as he liked Hurney, Marty was not cemented here. Also, once the Daniel Synder saga eventually sees the light of day, what Jerry Richardson got accused of will be akin to jay walking. While wrong, there's apparently a hell of a lot worse things being done out there.

Who would like to give Del Rio a shot? He wasn't horrible with Jacksonville and that was his first rodeo. Most HCs do better in their second gig. He has a connection here. While I would like an offensive-minded HC, not to many of them floating around besides Pederson. I do NOT want a first time HC. Let me just squash the name Jason Garrett before anyone mentions it.

I'm not a tank-type of guy, but I will say if we lose out (or nearly) I won't be too mad if it means better draft position AND, most importantly, Rhule gets canned. Of the short list (I think there was 6) of HCs to replace Rivera, Rhule was literally dead last on my list.

We will get a win versus the Saints and/or Falcons. Will it be enough to save Rhule's job? It depends on how bad the losses are I would imagine. If we eek out a win over the Falcons and get taken to the woodshed by the Bills and Bucs, that lone win won't matter.

Also Rhule wouldn't hire someone more qualified than himself and ultimately his likely successor when he is fired.

LOl, did you actually research the three degrees of separation from Rhule I mentioned earlier? If so, kudos to you my friend!

That's the part Chase needs to be wary of. Blackburn is not a Rhule guy and thus expendable.

I've heard coaches say all options are on the table without getting into specifics. Rhule? He denies, deflects and then ultimately contradicts himself, which makes him look even more inept in the end.