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Which one is that?

I mean, considering the CBS dude said they would give us their #9 pick, that's not nearly as ridiculous.

Dude with a G-spot????? Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

So WE would facilitate the move to sweeten the deal for them to take Teddy plus get picks. I could go for that. I was looking at it from Denver's perspective. It's roughly 50 points which is an end of round 4 value. They won't give their fouth pick so it would have to be round 5 and one of their three 7th rounders. We still lose out on some value, BUT would accomplished two things: it gets Teddy out of Carolina and we recoup a couple picks this year that we lose out on in next years draft. Granted these are later round selections, but in terms of net picks, we would only be on the hook for Darnold's 2nd in terms of real value.

Yes it's possible, but why? What would be the incentive is what I am asking?

Oops, I forgot completion percentage: 65% or higher.

Yeah, I was nervous they had found some old Hurney notes in the office. Since then the FA moves have made more sense or have at least been practical/economical. Man were those first two signings some serious head-scratchers.

Nobody would argue that in all seriousness. If they did it would be trolling or out of pure ignorance about the Panthers. If you reached hard enough, maaaaaaybe corner could be argued, but that's still a stretch.

We may even cut Teddy, so why would they give us a first round pick for him when they can get him as a free agent if they play the waiting game? Crazy.

I guess Lance decided to do this because his was so early and the others have decided to one-up each other by adding a second one. His will be the final one now. I'm sure he's got some crazy throw drawn up against a non-existent pass rush that everyone went crazy over in the Zach Wilson Pro Day. Wilson would have been planted in the turf doing all that running around in the backfield and probably would have been picked throwing back against the grain. Sure it looks impressive when there is ZERO defense. He may even do non-throwing workouts too. I think that hurt him by opting out the first time around when the other QBs with later Pro Days decided they would participate.

Sewell simply because Pitts can't get the ball if Darnold is fertilizer for the turf on passing downs. We have talent with Anderson, DJ Moore and CMC, they need more just 1 second to get open.

This is my mock version 3.0 for week 3 leading up to the draft. This is the one I personally would like to see happen, not what I think will happen. That one will be next week and my final mock for this thread. #8- QB Trey Lance-NDSU: (He slips past the 9ers and Falcons; nobody moves up, so we take him) #44 *TRADE w/ Dallas* G/C Quinn Mieinerz-UW-Whitwater: (Randunz and Cosmi are gone and a run on corners leave a void in value--we trade back to recoup the loss of our 4th next year) #73- LT Brady Christensen BYU (LT needy teams have already pounced, so we get our LT here) #113- CB Robert Rochell-Central Arkansas #138*Dallas*- CB Marco Wilson-Florida #151-DT Bobby Brown(1-tech)-Texas A&M #193- DT Cameron Sample- (3-tech) Tulane #222- DE Elerson Smith- Northern Iowa Got the QB, LT and center with needed depth on the D-line and corner. This would make me very happy with our draft!

Eh, I'm not so sure about the first two picks. At #15, I'm okay with Surtain, but only if all 3 OTs are gone. Little bothers me. He's injuring plagued and sat out last year. I really like the Meinerz, Smith, Williams and Jackson picks.

Here are the threshold numbers Darnold needs to achieve for me to believe he's a good QB that the Jets simply sabotaged because they are an incompetent organization: - 9 wins -27 total TDs (including rushing) -12 or fewer picks -More than 3,750 passing yards -TWO 1,000 yard receivers at minimum (yes, that can include CMC) -QB rating north of 95 -QBR over 65 - Yards per game greater than 250 on average *All of this would put him in the top half of starting QBs based on last year's stats. If a QB isn't in the top half of his peer group in comparison, then he's not that good.

People are now mocking Meinerz in the second round. Chances of him being around at #73 are fading fast.

If Sewell and Lance are gone, I'm all for moving back a FEW spots and taking Slater or Darrisaw. Certainly one of them will be there. I'm leaning Darrisaw though. I honestly think Slater will be an good tackle, but if someone takes him as a guard in a zone blocking scheme, dude will be a perennial Pro Bowler.

Player grades versus drafting trends often don't match up especially the deeper in the draft you get. While you may be a stickler on your grades, all you have to do is go to history to figure out roughly the same amount of players at each position are drafted every year. Even if you consider this a weak DT class, I can promise you more than 4 DTs will be selected by the end of day two. Nearly two dozen DTs get drafted each year, so I can't see roughly 20 of those coming just on day 3.

There, that seems more accurate.

He has the most upside of the 'big 4'. His biggest knock is his not ready to start now. With Darnold here, he wouldn't have to AND we won't have to fall back on Teddy either. Slater I'm okay with, just not at #8. If we move back 3-4 spots and he's still there, I'm good with it. I agree, I think he's a better athlete than a completely rounded OT. Having two franchise QBs on rookie deals sets us up for big things in two years when Darnold is set to be a FA. Most teams would be jealous to be in such a situation. I was really opposed to an OT with our first round pick, but now Darnold is here, It's right there at the top of the list. If we do draft Sewell, I'll be very happy.

I'll be happy with Sewell or Lance; Slater as a distant 3rd. Anything else is going to be somewhat of a letdown. If we take a skill position without a trade down, I'm throwing something at the TV.

Some solid 3-techs with a 3rd round grade.

That's roughly the number of undrafted guys we sign every year after the draft. I doubt we add many more FAs, 1 or 2 max, if any at all.

FIFY

I'll take a 7th round comp pick and one of these for Teddy.

We traded for a QB and his name isn't Deshaun Watson. Can we move on now? This was unbearable even when the Panthers were being linked to him. Now it's time to move on. Yes, I know it's still the offseason, but some topics need to be put to rest.