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To go from what Chinn did his rookie year to getting 18 snaps now... this poo is baffling. And we're even thin at MLB. Why not move him back there?
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He might not have asked for it, but if he didn't feel he was capable of living up to the expectations then he should've let them know and gracefully bowed out of the runnin for #1. But he didn't. So is he gonna return his salary? No. So it's hard to feel bad for the guy. At the same time, the staff and FO believed in him and went all in on him, confident that he was worthy of the #1 overall pick and of being a franchise QB. So in terms of whether to feel bad for him or not, or considering if expectations were unrealistic or too high - I'm sorry, brother, but this is the modern day NFL. If we take a player at #1, we expect you to change the direction of our franchise for the better. We expect you to set the tone and team culture. For better or worse, that's what comes with being the #1 overall pick now, so it wasn't unfair or unrealistic. And again, if he didn't feel he could live up to that, he should've let them know in the pre-draft process.
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Amazing how guys have spotless reputations before getting here and now it's everybody's fault but the people actually responsible. Jefferson isn't the problem.
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It's gotta be Caldwell, Evero, or Brown. Someone that is already here on the staff. But I agree about Johnson and anyone else worth their salt on the outside, and have said as much in other threads - we have reached the point now with Tepper's meddling that no coach with the ability to turn the culture around here is going to come here - EVEN if we overpay. Our reputation precedes us at this point. It's bad.
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We had Tepper being at practice with Dan Morgan. Didn't see mention of Fitt being there with him in his immediate presence. I think that's sending a message. We also had Bailey's reports that Tepper isn't happy and seats are getting really hot as a result, and that changes could be made soon. Again, considering the epic levels of humiliation currently cooking up in our smorgasbord of fug ups that has been the Tepper Era, it's obvious Tepper is getting restless... and this tree topper of a doozy - trading for the #1 pick then becoming the worst team in football - will be hard to live down, and thus someone will have to pay. I give all of this info to lead me to my point of what I found to be further symptoms of the inevitable impending head rolling - Reich's Presser. Local news in Raleigh did a cut up of his presser and he said belief like 10 times or more. It's like he decided to latch on to some nebulous concept as a way to demonstrate "we're on the right path," even if you can't see it. Sound familiar? Yes. It sounded eerily similar to Rhule's last stretch of post-game pressers before he was canned. Reich seems to feel the heat, and you better believe when a coach starts telling you about all of the intangible things that make their team special when there isn't an inkling of that translating to the field, then they're already placing their head firmly in the sacrifical guillotine. I'm not sure if it happens this week, but I wouldn't be surprised. And if not this week, I'm sure one of Fitt or Reich is gone after we lose to Miami.
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I know, we have 100 different variations of this thread here on the huddle... but, I have to say it. We really traded CMC, DJ, and two firsts within a year, moved up to the #1 pick and despite drafting the guy "we" wanted there, we go on to be the worst team in the league and give up the first overall pick the next draft as a result. We could not have gambled any worse. There is losing and then there is LOSING, and we redefined it with this last year of moves and it's gonna take several years to dig ourselves out of this hole, if it's even possible.
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Calling it - the Bryce Young trade is the worst in team history
Proudiddy replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
No doubt. And he is trending to be the biggest bust in NFL history considering where he was picked and the cost of getting there to pick him. Just imagine being the first team in NFL history (at least to my knowledge), that sold out to take a guy at 1, traded their first pick of the next draft, and then turns around and unintentionally tanks that proceeding season. I don't think a team has ever traded their first and ended up having that pick be first overall before. That is an unreal L. Like worst gamble ever.- 79 replies
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What a coup. Got DJ this year, then imagine getting Caleb Williams/Maye and Marvin Harrison Jr. In back to back picks this coming draft.
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They dropping 50 minimum.
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I agree. An OC that can strap on his shoulder pads and get out there and play QB for Bryce.
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I dont think people really realize how fuging insane it is that we traded a legit #1 WR (I maintain DJ is a top 5 WR in the league) as part of thr package to move up for Bryce, and then are now rumored to be giving up more assets to try to get a "#1 WR" like Jeudy, who isn't really a #1 WR. That poo is certified, batshit crazy. And it's not even taking into account that no matter who they add, it's not going to make Bryce any better. The more I watch him, the more I realize he just doesn't have the ability to make the players around him any better or excel. When you traded up to #1 for a guy you basically have to hide and hope the cast around him can carry him, you fuged up big time and set your franchise back for years.
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Lol they wouldn't trade a 2nd for what they already have in Jones. Both are ass.
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This is what stood out to me most today. Sure, he looked better when they were up 18+ points and running prevent defense and we went uptempo, but the throws that were there early in tight windows that he couldn't complete were my biggest takeaway from today. I think it was Chark he tried to complete one to in the back of the endzone early and it was probably only 10 or 15 yards, but it felt like that ball, even with a low trajectory, just hung up in the air forever. He just didn't have enough zip to get it to there when he was open and it allowed the defender to close the gap and make a play. This happened two or three times on similar passes in the first half. Point being, I've seen enough.
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Wait till we get a breakdown of the 10 yard pass we wanted to see from him (when the defense is in prevent)!
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Biggest bust in nfl history
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Been saying the same brother. He is the most dynamic, dangerous player on the roster with the ball in his hands. Period.
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Yall still giving out any of them poo emojis when we talk bad about the super processor?
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Never liked Jeudy's game and always felt he was overhyped, and those stats bear that out... but the fact people are acting like Chark is just yesterday's garbage because Bryce can't get him the ball really blows my mind. Chark is more of a number 1 than Jeudy, by a lot. We don't need receivers. We need better playcalling and QB play.
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Not writing them off, but just judging off how they're trending... Bryce is looking the least impressive/functional out of all the rookie QBs playing so far and we traded up to #1 (including giving up DJ) to get him. That appears to be a massive miss, regardless of how he plays the rest of the season, bc had we traded up to say 4 or 5, kept DJ, and took him, AR, or Stroud, depending on how it played out, we still walk away with so much more value. Now, they're saying we're looking to trade for a #1 WR, when we just traded one to get Bryce in the first place. You can't play that hand any worse. And as far as me mentioning DJ Johnson - he might be a rookie with great athleticism, but he isn't active and he's 25 years old. He could be a late bloomer, but generally, if they're going to project well, a good staff can find ways to use them. And then you have guys like Mingo, Zavala and Jammie. We dont really know what we have with Mingo, but it appears they dont know how to use him effectively or get him the ball. Zavala is the worst guard starting in the league right now, and Jammie made the team but doesn't play. This draft is looking atrocious.
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Yup... and I literally just had that debate again with a huddler last week when I again reminded everyone that DJ is a top 5 WR in the league. Talent-wise, he absolutely is, he's just been stuck in trash ass offenses with the majority of it being stuck with subpar QBs.
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I was an ardent Fitt guy... after this offseason, I'm out. Fire his ass... I loved his connections and inroads to all the other FOs around the league and ability to find value trades, but trading DJ instead of Burns and drafting Bryce on top of the other umerous flubs (DJ Johnson, etc.) has put the nail in his coffin. Then watching DJ go off tonight while Burns half-asses his way through the season because he thinks he should be paid like an elite, complete edge, when hes just a really solid to good pass rusher... Get him tf out of here.