Proudiddy

People can say what they want, but the reason Cam isn't here to begin with is Rhule. The QB stuff has very little to do with Fitt. Rhule is the one who said he couldn't wait to coach Cam and then got rid of him, vouched for and wanted both Teddy and Sam, and he's the one who brought Brady in and is overseeing this whole clusterfug that we call an offense. It all starts and ends with Rhule... and he can't and won't bring in Cam because it would be him admitting he wasn't right to move on from him in the first place. And from Cam's perspective, would you trust to sign back with this coaching staff after all that bullshit they pulled last offseason before releasing him (see above: "can't wait to coach Cam")? It would be absolutely exhilarating if we were able to sign him and bring him back though. I know the odds are all but zero, but it would re-energize the fanbase and would definitely give this team a shot to make a run in the playoffs. I could see Cam accepting the opportunity if presented, but I just don't see Rhule admitting he was wrong and even approaching Cam to come back. And shout out to the reporter that asked it, especially in that fashion.

Might want to check out that Texans game.

Funny enough, I just ran into Brian St. Pierre at Applebee's and he said the same thing

I'm an OG here. Been here since 2004 and been a Panther fan since day 1. How about you? People are bringing Cam up because all these soft ass retreads they keep trying to hand the position to suck ass. Cam alone would generate more offense just from running. And the struggles at QB are a constant reminder that this staff aren't very good at their jobs because they willingly turned a position that wasn't a problem when healthy into a problem and they can't fix it. Stick to trolling, because football clearly isn't your thing.

Yup. And in hindsight, I did remember seeing Sam one time during the game and his shoulder pads looked uneven to me, like one side was drooped. That little blurb you posted right there is scary knowing the kind of hit that happened and the injuries he suffered and then for them to not practice him fully all week, give PJ the full starters reps and then still trot Sam out there? That is just asinine. And then for him to start struggling like he was, and you still leave him out there knowing he has that injury which could be causing it? This just doesn't even seem real.

I'm not as down on PJ as others. He'd always had the best arm on the roster since he's been here, and has also always been the most athletic QB we have as well considering his elusiveness and scrambling/playmaking ability. The only consistent issue I've seen with him is his decision making, especially in the redzone, and that is a HUGE issue, but as a result of coaching, or more like a lack of it, that has been an issue for every QB here the last two years - which is why I thought he should've been starting. So, here's to hoping he can chuck some deep bombs for TDs.

Agreed. I'd have to go back and watch to be sure again, but I'm not sure I want to subject myself to it lol, but just from memory, I do not remember Sam taking any hits in the pocket, nor do I remember him reacting like he suffered an acute injury at any point. I dont remember him having to pick himself up off the ground at any point like in every other game this season. So, that would lead me to believe he suffered this fracture from the hit in Atlanta. Gross negligence adn incompetence from the staff and coaches. And this is why you don't allow a first time HC to being along all of his college buddies on the staff with zero NFL lifers to help along the way. This staff is just fuging up at every turn and the medical staff is looking at a potential lawsuit.

Even more disgusting is the fact that he took this offer to the Giants and tried to get them to match it before accepting our offer because he didn't want to be here anyway.

Everyone knows how I feel about Sam, but that's irrelevant here... this coaching staff is a fuging joke, and the medical staff appears to be equally incompetent. Dude was already struggling and you send him out there like that? Rhule had to have completely lost the locker room already. This was some fuging amateur poo if I've ever heard or seen any... just dumb, dumb, dumb poo. Get better soon, Sam. And thanks for the effort. Sorry you and the rest of the roster are stuck with these con men.

Wait... we released Clay, too? I just saw the OL guys put on IR and waiving Freeman. Wow. Not that he was great or anything, just didn't see it.

As I mentioned in my reply to mav, I wouldn't expect news of it to come from our staff... I would expect we would've heard it reported though. But, I agree, if I was Cam I wouldn't come back here with this staff.

I wouldn't expect to hear it from them either, but I have no doubt it would be reported if it happened.

I've thought about this as well, but in the very least I would like if the staff reached out to him and inquired, but no doubt, if I was him I wouldn't trust their slimy asses either.

Yup, I think letting him go was absolutely stupid. He was the one big, powerback we had on the roster. And of course, our dumbass staff cuts him because they like Abdullah's "energy" and I'm sure his ability to play multiple positions.

Or maybe our staff can just stop fuging sucking. People keep bringing Cam up because he is clearly better than both of the guys they've brought in since, even at half of what he once was. It's fine if they decided to move on from the only MVP we've ever had if they thought he was done and they had a clear plan in place to upgrade the position. Instead, they paid a guy 27 million plus for one year then traded him away to trade away a 2nd round pick for a guy that was 100x worse, is the worst starting QB in the NFL and we owe him 18 million next year on top of what we're still paying Teddy. That's why people won't shut up about Cam. Why should we? When its clear most fans know more than this fuging dumbass incompetent staff about the QB position, you're gonna keep hearing about it. If they knew more, they would've already proven us wrong and they haven't and can't because they don't. They're fuging idiots. Right the wrong and bring Cam back until they can find a young QB of the future to groom.

They just picked this: Over this: fug this staff. Let me guess, Rhule met Barkley at the urinals during a break at a college leadership retreat once and was enamored with his intangibles and just knew he was destined to be a winner.

Cam Newton is still unemployed and we just signed this noodle-armed Leinart redux.

Didn't want to start a new thread for this tweet so I figured this is a good place to put it:

Not that I want him bc we don't even know how to use the receivers we have, but ngl, part of me wants us to claim him just to see how much brighter this dumpster fire can burn. Because of we do claim him, he is gonna be pissed tf off.

Still there are ways to scheme around it and if you don't scheme around it, you're accentuating that weakness. Several teams like the Chargers, Steelers, and Patriots have lines that would average out in the bottom third of the league and none of their offenses look as broken or dysfunctional as ours. Also, look at teams like the Saints and Patriots pass block win rate versus their run block win rate... sure, you could say its because they're built to better to pass block, OR maybe, just maybe, they're scheme gets the ball out quick so they rarely allow pressures. It all goes hand in hand... is our OL personnel garbage? Absolutely. Is it being exacerbated by idiotic, amateurish coaching even more so? Absolutely.

Yes, until he is injured in the first qtr.

I honestly am both surprised and amazed that he is still employed after yesterday... that isn't just reactive fan speak, I legitimately and objectively don't see how they did not fire him today. I fully expected it. And the longer he remains employed, the more sure I am that Rhule isn't an NFL coach either.

Was just gonna say this is bullshit. Face saving move... if the shoulder was that bad, he would've had an MRI before yesterday and not played. Also, according to Darnold in his presser after the game, he was fine and wasn't limited in any way.

No, they are somewhere between abysmal, completely absent, and non-existent. Below average would be an improvement.