Proudiddy

No I remember how bad he was those first games last season, but I think the difference there just from memory was the turnovers. He’s not turning the ball over as much this season per games, but the lack of production is on par, although I feel it is actually worse considering it has been going on for more games at this point. It’s more than enough of a sample size for Dave to bench him compared to when he made the choice last season.

It’s also another thing that makes this so maddening for me - Canales benched Bryce last season for less worse (if that’s a thing) play than what he’s exhibiting now. Most of us fans took it as a positive - new coach coming in and asserting himself and saving the locker room. The fact he won’t step in now when Bryce is single-handedly killing the season? Now I’m wondering, was the benching last year even Dave’s call, or built-in and agreed-upon theatrics from Tepper. Like putting your kid in timeout because you don’t want to have to spank them or take away their electronics?

“We’ll call more plays when we see more success” regarding explosive passing plays. He’s basically saying we won’t call them because we can’t execute them. It’s one of the most creatively nebulous-sounding indictments I’ve ever heard, but an indictment nonetheless. Almost like it’s daring Bryce, and he still won’t do it. I mentioned in another thread how one play yesterday, Bryce rolled out and held the ball forever. If I were venture to say, I’m guessing that play lasted upwards of 5 seconds, EASY. He just kept holding it and kept looking. And then he’d look like he was gonna throw it, then pull it back down, look again, pull it back down, look again, then finally grounded it in front of the nearest WR. These were the type of plays Bryce thrived on in college. Now, most of them he doesn’t even attempt because those fuging lofty ass cans of corn ain’t cutting it and he knows they’re likely to get picked. Point being, we’re leaving so many plays out on the field and it begins and ends with Bryce’s inability and unwillingness to pull the trigger. In that same thread, someone brought up Jake and how many present fans never saw him play. But think back to other great Panthers QBs as well, Cam being the greatest and a singular generational talent that will never be replicated, but even Steve Beurelein (sp?), he’ll, even Matt Moore in his short tenure. What did these guys do that Bryce just won’t - give his guys a fuging chance to make plays. And the most obvious samples are the lack of high-pointers and back shoulder fades, but even in simple poo like all the crossing routes that people are ragging on Tet and XL for. The passes are so poorly placed, he’s not giving them a chance to just catch it and run. They have to fuging stop, contort their body, etc. in another thread, we were discussing Mike White and Hendon Hooker. You can name off any number of other guys currently available as well as a slew of ones we could’ve had in the offseason, and every single one of them would do what Bryce refuses to - give their guys a fuging chance to make plays. That’s what is so fuging frustrating about him beyond the obvious.

You really have to ask yourself why they cut both of them and left themselves down to the two pieces of poo we currently have rostered at QB in the first place? It is asinine. Absolutely ridiculous. My theory is that either or both Hooker and White make Bryce feel less secure with his role, so they chose to eliminate the distractions. No doubt in my mind, White is a better NFL QB than Bryce - he has the tape to prove it. Hooker is still an unknown for the most part, but I know without a doubt he has better presence and physical tools than Bryce.

I just don’t agree. A young capable QB would be killing with this supporting cast. Bryce fugs up the entire offense. Every play is a stacked box, secondary cheating underneath and jumping everything because they know his chances of beating them with a pass over the top is lottery level odds.

Cam smacking him period.

If we had a QB who could throw the ball over the top, XL would look like fuging Ted Ginn right now lol.

And I would still be ecstatic bc at least we were capable of passing the fuging ball.

I see enough good from XL that I’m withholding judgment. TBH, the same excuse applies for him that applies for Tet and the others. If you have a QB who is constantly misplacing the ball in shitty spots, as a receiver, you start playing different. If you run a route and look back for the ball in anticipation, and you’re used to it being in a shitty spot from your shitty QB, but THIS time it’s placed better, now you’re not prepared for it. know it sounds stupid, but it’s the truth. Most of the throws on game day are dropped because they’re looking for a better ball and it’s not thrown well. But there are times, like the play you posted, where the placement is better than they anticipate, and it throws them off. And I emphasize placed “better” because that’s still not a great pass. The thing with Bryce is, as I mentioned in another thread where our conversation turned to Jake in his heyday, is in comparison to other QBs, Bryce just doesn’t give his receivers a chance to make a play. At all. So until we get a QB who consistently can, I’m not evaluating any of these guys. If we had a real QB, Tet would be putting up Prime Mike Evans numbers right now.

Out of the league in 2 years.

The thing that really sticks me with Canales is, if you’ve worked your whole life to reach the pinnacle of the coaching profession, and you finally get the opportunity to become one of only 32 people in the world doing it… and you decide to commit so hard to this fuging bum who will not only get you fired if you stick with him, but will likely tank your chances of ever getting the opportunity to do it again. That’s why it HAS to be Tepper’s call. IT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE. Everyone, coach or not, has a threshold and a survival instinct attached to it - and the thought that DC hasn’t reached that point yet with the reputation he has as a QB whisperer while the guy he keeps trotting out there ha solidified himself as the worst starting QB in league history? And again, that’s in the face of know DC needs and prefers guys with the physical tools to sling the football. It just makes no fuging sense. And it pisses me off even more with Tepper because you see all this and you’re still forcing him to play Bryce?????? You’re supposed to be the self-made, intelligent dude, and you are so fuging stubborn you choose to cut your nose off to spite your face every fuging Sunday you play this bitch. It’s insane.

Sadly, I’ve talked with a lot of my fellow alumni and Heel fans, and I’ve said, sadly, UNC is in the same exact position with Gio as the Panthers are with Bryce. And the way the situations mirror each other are EERIE. I’ve said here repeatedly how whoever Bryce’s personal team is that conned an NFL front office into taking him as a first round pick, let alone the #1 overall pick, deserve to retire off whatever money he’s made due to their efforts. This poo would make Chauncey Billups’ crime bosses blush.. Same for Gio. Whoever he has around him, representing him, that convinced a power 4 school to pay this MF MILLIONS of dollars at the college level coming from Southwest Alabama Technical Basket Weaving School for the Deaf, Dumb, and Blind University, just to come make the whole rest of the UNC squad look like absolute poo is a fuging amazing sell. I’m talking Tai Lopez level scam poo. And for both to con their way to their position at their respective levels of competition, only to get there and be so clearly the worst piece on their team while simultaneously play the most important position on the field - I’ve never seen anything like it. And what’s worse, in both cases, the organization chooses to keep putting them out there in large part because of ego and investment made. And all they keep doing is making the rest of the team look fuging atrocious. They both literally hold the entire team back by their presence alone. And as an aside, Lopez may have the slowest fuging release I have ever witnessed in my life. In talking slower and longer than fuging The Golden Calf of Bristol.

That’s why I love Jake and always will. He was so fuging gritty and definitely was a gunslinger. Like a not-quite-poor-man’s Brett Favre. Like an economy version lol. He was damn good. Yeah, he’d throw a pick here or there, but more often than not, I trusted Jake. He’d make some throws that really made you think, “damn, he’s even better than I thought.” I loved that he loved to gamble, but more importantly, he gave his guys a fuging chance to make a play. When people have been criticizing Tet for drops, it pisses me off, because they say it like these are some gimmes that he’s dropping. but, at about 6’5”, if your whole body is moving one way and you have to stop or slow down to come back to a ball thrown behind you, or low, that poo is not easy. Bryce isn’t really giving him a chance, and I can see why he’s dropping them. Versus if you look at this highlight reel of Moose: at about halfway through is when Jake stepped in. The passes he was throwing are CRAZY. There’s multiple passes in there where he is throwing across his body while running the opposite way - and he still had the strength to get it on target. Then there’s the throws where he lasers it in a spot only the receiver could get it - seam routes, out routes, over the top. The longer you watch, the more obvious it is that so many of these (what should be basic) throws are completely absent from our offense with Bryce. There was a play today where he started to scramble, kept looking, looking, looking, then just threw it into the ground near the receiver. Let them make a fuging play. His best pass of the day? The long one to Tet? If you re-watch it. About 10-15 yards further downfield, XL smoked his man on a post route. You get maybe 3 chances at that a game usually, and when you don’t even attempt it when it’s there? That poo is so demoralizing. I can’t wait for Bryce’s time here to be fuging over. If they cut him tomorrow I would feel free. I would feel like I just won the fuging powerball. If they signed Heineke, Perkins, White, PJ Walker, or Hooker to start the rest of the year, I would be fuging ecstatic like we just trotted Cam out for the first time. That how fuging life-sucking Bryce is as the QB.

I said it in the game thread, but Jameis would be putting up MVP numbers with this cast.

I think it’s closer to peewee.

No, because we don’t need a “top QB prospect” for us to seriously upgrade the QB position here. Again, Joe Milton, Shedeur, Shough, Dart, Jameis, Flacco, Huntley, etc., all of those options were available for CHEAP this offseason. They could’ve been had without giving up a player. It was that fuging easy.

XL and every WR not named Tet has English Premiere League conditioning at this point. Fitness level unmatched.

Exactly.

We would probably be 7-3.

Imagine plugging Phillip Rivers into this lol

Bryce and Tepper, thanks for ruining my Sunday. fug both of you with Magic Johnson’s dick.

Both of the Saints QBs on a 1-8 team coming into today are better starting NFL QBs than Bryce.

This is one of the worst losses in franchise history, and it’s all on Bryce.

Imagine you thinking the opposing QB is so fuging horrible that you feel comfortable going for it on 4th down every opportunity because you know they can’t move the ball. If there hasn’t been a bigger slap to the face giving you your fuging sign… I just don’t fuging get it.