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They have a delusional belief in Bryce, and also pretty sure they feel obligated to try to make him "work," because of Tepper and the investment. It's part of why this poo is going to take a long time to dig ourselves out of this hole.

It's like the streetsweeper who didn't catch the bubonic plague during the black death.

Earl Boykins, but without the ability to score or pass. (Sorry to Earl, who was a helluva basketball player but needed the frame for comparison)

Not sure couldn't get 1 yard, but proceeded to lose about 15 on the next two. This staff and team is just collectively fuging horrible.

Lol Tuttle doing his former team a solid. Should be cut immediately.

Damn, didn't know Shannon Spake had such a rack on her.

But if it's was ever routine, I could expect him to miss one or two gimme with his confidence low, but my God... that last sequence was back to back to back just horrible.

I dont think it's even chemistry... his placement is just always bad on deep throws. It's either severely underthrown, or to the inside when they're looking outside, or outside when they're looking inside, or just 10 yards over their heads when they beat the defense. I think it's like with a pitcher and location. If a guy doesn't have a strong arm, the harder he tries to throw, the less accurate he is with placement. It's the difference between throwing and "pushing." The deeper the throw, the more it looks like Bryce is pushing. But to be fair, he is not throwing on platform either because of the shitty protection most plays.

Mingo was WIDE OPEN behind the entire defense and he overthrew him by 10 yards.

Bryce cannot throw deep at all. No touch.

Yeah, was just saying it was a definitive report form a source in the know. Can't remember whose article it was... but just sharing because I asked the same thing when Frank was fired, as I thought Evero or Brown would be the ideal interim with a chance to become permanent HC. But with everything that's come out since, if I was Evero or Brown, I wouldn't take it either even if it was offered.

First time in my entire life I've seen an offensive player called for offsides. this team is fuging horrible.

Thought I read last week or the week before that Evero was never offered the job.

Except when he's your interim HC because you already fired the sitting HC 10 games into the season.

Wow. I'm sure it's happened before in his career, but I don't recall Hekker ever getting blocked before... and that block wasnt on him buy the protection, but still just a sign of where we are... and he has been ass this year. Might be time. Also, we're what, 4 mins from halftime? Bryce has 1 completion on 8 attempts. It's a long, long way up fellas.

I agree. It's a pipedream, but maybe the O'Brien/Bryce connection would entice them enough? But otherwise, any GM with a brain isn't giving up more than a 4th rounder at best for Bryce.

Man, I am so glad I decided to go run errands while my personal life is falling apart today instead of watching this monstrosity in its entirety. I see nothing really changed.

Honestly, Greg is a guy I trust, period. I get it about experience, but if he doesn't know how to do something or hasn't done it, I know he will consult people and surround himself with people who do. He'll figure it out. Also, isnt he a coach's son? Might just be in his blood. It definitely wouldn't be one of Tepper's worst decisions... and he has plenty of them to choose from.

I might give them the offensive line, and Dell is a hell of a receiver, but he was unproven coming into this year too. We have Sanders, Thielen, Hurst, Chark - all known commodities and solid to great players who have proven their worth in the league. They didn't just all turn to poo in one offseason... and I'm not saying it's all on Bryce, but between coaches struggling to make things happen offensively and the guys I just named suddenly becoming incapable of playing football, there is one common denominator that links them both, and his first name starts with a B and his last name starts with a Y. Just saying...

I know the dysfunction is evident across the board, and Bryce is not responsible for that, nor is he responsible for the position he has been put in. But it just hit me - when is the last time a rookie starting QB got his first year HC fired in year one? I don't recall any if it's happened. And that led me to think further... I mentioned in another thread, despite having a shitty QB hand dealt to him in Indy, starting with Luck retiring, Reich showed well for himself overall there. I said at worst, he is likely an average HC, so what happened here is a clear sign of how dysfunctional out organization currently is - and yes, it all falls on Tepper - but, I was thinking, if Reich and McCown couldn't figure out how to utilize Bryce with their vast experience as pro QBs, then we must prepare ourselves for the possibility that maybe he isn't salvageable. And also, his chances of success just practically were chopped in half 11 games into his career, because it is proven that new staffs/FOs typically don't give much runway to QBs (and players in general) they inherit. They aren't beholden to them, so if they're clearly not part of the solution, they are quick to be put on the chopping block. Furthermore, as many, including myself, have been saying, we are now The New Old Browns... look back at their QB carousel over the years and look at how much turnover there was between QBs and HCs. It's not coincidental... their ownership wanted to win and win now, so they went through top pick after top pick after stop gap after stop gap after HC after HC. The synergy is there - if I'm a new HC and I didn't draft this guy, hr is on a short leash, and if he doesn't perform, my chance to really put my stamp on things is by bringing in my own guy. If he fails, I'm fired and then he'll be traded or released in a year or so too. We saw it time and again... that's where we are now. And so, that being said, I really got to thinking why was it so difficult, if Bryce was touted for having these otherworldly traits, to get the offense looking even just functional? And I thought back to guys like Canty, Olsen, etc., who have brought up how the offense is really hindered by our inability to get under center at all. So, what if Bryce just really can't do it? That would explain why Reich didn't want him, but tried to make the best of it. It would explain why the offense, no matter what adjustments they tried to make, just couldn't find its footing. It's why the offense didn't look much different between Reich's and Brown's versions. Perhaps that's why they even had Dalton sub in earlier in the year for the sneak because it was whispered at the time that Bryce couldn't even take the snaps under center to do that. And if that is the case, man oh man, this is really just the beginning... I said earlier in the year, we were likely at the very bottom of a very deep hole and it was going to take a long time to dig out of it as a result of the capital traded and the amount of flubs we made with personnel, but boy, it just keeps getting deeper.

And no disrespect to Tabor, but why tf him as interim? Why not Evero?

Harbaugh would fuging whoop Tepper's ass an hour into meeting him. No way Tepper would hire him. Not enough yes man.

I honestly think Frank had enough of the shitshow and I'm guessing the weekly owner meeting wasn't exactly discussing the weather. I don't blame him. fug Tepper.

It has all the ear markings of owner meddling. I agree, I don't think Reich is a great coach, but I think he's at worst an average one... this is all from an owner forcing his say into football matters and now the staff and FO are stuck sith his dumbass decisions. All the guys that have ever played for Reich in Indy raved about him and loved him, and despite a horrible hand of luck with QBs there, he made chicken salad out of chicken poo repeatedly and when he had a QB that fit his system, he had some really great years. So the fact his offense looks so dysfunctional rn tells me this was not a QB that fit what he is trying to do. And all of this again brings me to the conclusion that we're stuck with this poo, Reich or no Reich. The coach doesn't matter, the GM doesn't matter, none of that poo matters because Tepper is sticking his nose in places where it doesn't belong and then like a true billionaire, places his employees on the chopping block for his own dumbass mistakes. I fuging hate him.

Al makes some great points, EXCEPT the skill part. I think the technique is horrible - but it's clear he is physically talented which is where skill comes from. Skill is just your natural talent being put to use at a specific action repeatedly to where you develop it into technique. The issue is, no way Ickey should be THIS bad in pass pro, because he clearly has the ability and skill to be great... it's clear he just doesn't execute or practice it enough to refine it into technique. It's honestly just looks lazy and like a guy who believes "I'm good at what I'm good at, and if we're not doing that, it's your fault, not mine."