Stingray3030

Look yall - some need to calm down. This is exactly what a good GM should do given the current situation. Burns is pushing for $30-33M a year, the Panthers want to pay less. If they let him go they want to maximize the return for a valuable commodity. This is exactly the right play because: If he finds a team that wants to sign him we get 2 first round picks. Or we negotiate a little lower return. If no one wants to give him the $$ he finally understands his real value and we sign him long term for a reasonable contract instead of overpaying. If we release him we get no more than a 3rd round compensatory for him If we give him the $30+ a year we hinder our ability to be truly competitive for another 3 years until we can fix the bad contracts we have lingering. And for the record - Burns is NOT a dawg like Morgan has said. Being good is not the definition. He may have been in the past but clearly 2 years of getting tossed around by the previous GM has taken its toll. None of this is the wrong move.....yet.

You said Rodgers "hasn't" been elite "for" 3 seasons. This statement means the last 3 seasons Rodgers hasn't been elite since "hasn't" and "for" imply "the past." You may have meant to include the 2024 season, but your use of these words does not imply the future. The last 3 seasons would be 2021, 2022, and 2023 - one of which the man was the MVP....AGAIN.....so clearly not past being elite during stated time frame. SO to fix your statement to what I think you meant you would say "Rodgers hasn't been elite for the last 2 seasons, nor will he be for the 2024 season which is in the future and more than 6 months away so it can't be the past as some may try to imply - which clearly I would never do." Just lookin out for you bro

Clearly I was joking, but you may need some math help. 3 seasons ago was 2021.....he won the MVP....only 2 seasons have happened since was back to back MVP.

Not disagreeing with anything said - but Stephen Sullivan...I have really liked him in that receiving TE role. Huge and athletic. The combo of Sullivan + Tremble is good enough to spend money and draft picks elsewhere.

Dude literally won the MVP in back-to-back seasons 2 years ago...then 1 season and an injury

Every....single.....time

I guess he gave up on "playing with an elite QB"

I gotta say in a time where so many (most) famous people fall short of being accountable for their mistakes in their words and actions - Cam delivered an incredibly mature, accountable apology. Hats off to him for doing the right thing when so many choose not to.

Honestly I see our OLine needs more as depth than starters - for that reason I would probably prefer a WR or Ja'Tavion Sanders as our 2nd round pick. But I also am fine if we prioritize the 2nd rounder as OLine. I also see OLine depth as much, much easier to find in rounds 3-7 than WR or TE, so another reason to go WR or TE early. That is this year's draft....next year we go after elite players if possible. In FA we need to go after at least 1-2 of the WR you mentioned....personally I prefer Gabe Davis or Ridley to Marquise or Mooney. We need downfield threats and those 2 are much more of it than Marquise and Mooney. Marquise is decent, but just don't think he fits with Mingo and Thielen like Gabe would. I really like KJ Osborn also especially at his price compared to these guys. But no matter which of these guys we go to in FA we should still use the 2nd pick for a WR or Sanders IMO, because all of the reasonable FA WR's we can get are solid #2's....not #1's. We need a future #1, so if we think Coleman, Franklin, etc... are it we need to do it. So mostly I am good with your plan

Honestly man - I am seriously trying to help you - take a deep breath and stop responding. Every response makes you look worse. You have no clue what you are talking about. Your first paragraph agrees with us COMPLETELY and you are angrily responding with nonsense.

Facts are difference than feelings - no one said they don't like having elite players - literally no one. The fact is we cannot afford more than 1-2 elite guys right now because our contracts suck. All of us want the team on the field to be good and win games - but our current situation doesn't give us a chance for that if we dup 60% of our cap space into 1 guys when we need 10 upgrades.

Nothing weird about actually understanding how the NFL works instead of thinking it is like Madden

AJ Brown was traded for a 1st and early 4th a few years back.....I would suspect it would take at least that for JJ, so a 1st and 3rd at least is probably right

Pitre, Stingley, Christian Harris are all rookies before Stroud got there - haven't made a Pro Bowl yet but they will. You can give all the credit to Ryans if you want, but those guys are studs that they built the team with through the draft. I said Starters/Pro Bowlers....not just Pro Bowlers. Those guys are better than anyone we had on our defense at those positions. That team doesn't make the Playoffs without them.

You are missing my point - they drafted 2-4 starters/Pro Bowlers each year in the last 3....we haven't drafted ANY in the last 3 years. They sign FA's who start and play well - we haven't. They got a new HC who was outstanding - ours was fired mind season his first year. Acting like these 2 teams are in the same ballpark loses you any credibility. The Bengals had 3 years of rebuild also before Burrow & 2020....we have spent the last 3 years adding NOTHING. What on this roster do you see we added the last 3 drafts? Honestly what talent are you talking about?

No one is saying it isn't possible, but agreeing it is unlikely same as you. But you are ignoring context - the Texans were 3-13 but they had already begun rebuilding for years - they had a top 4 pick 4 straight years, not 1. They developed guys like Nico, Greenard - they had back to back really good drafts for Stingley, Pitre, Tank, Stroud, Anderson, Harris. They had cheap, productive FA signings in Schultz and Singletary. They had a large amount of available funds. We have none of that....none.....Our point is we are the 2020 Texans not the 2022....we are a few years and alot of luck away from JJ making much difference.

Spotrac puts his value at $29M.

It makes a huge difference how you structure the deals - Purdy is costing them only $1M this year....Aiyuk $14, Bosa $14.7. Not saying we can't get multiple stars but our contracts at the moment have us locked up.

Some of yall need to learn the difference between 2-15 and 7-10....this team needs literally 7 or 8 upgrades to make the Playoffs at all...2-3 stars to make a real run. Draft picks are the most valuable commodity we have right now....we got into this mess because we didn't treat them like that...now you wanna give em away to rent a guy for 2-3 years. You know he wouldn't sign a long term deal here.

Bro - you could have Davis, Ridley, Burns, and the #33 pick - you have to look from that perspective cause it is true. You would never make that deal.

I wanna be friends but....Cooper Kupp, Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, Steve Smith, Keenan Allen, AJ Brown, Deebo, Metcalf, Diggs, Michael Thomas.....I will just stop cause this could go on....

The man will be double teamed on 200% of his snaps.....or you could get Calvin Ridley AND Gabe Davis for the a little less money.....without trading Burns.....hmmmmmm

Don't ruin my happiness - I want hopeful ignorance right up until Week 1

And therein lies our problem - we suck at scouting for the draft

The problem is there is almost never top tier WR talent available in FA - this year is the same. We won't have a shot at anyone above Marquise Brown, who is a high caliber #2. We draft or we don't get a top tier.