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Revenge game.

OPI.

Cut this K if he can't make a 50 yarder.

Rhule trying to twist the knife.

Oh poo, the Jets might need a new P cos that guy's blown his knee out.

So this new PR is not very dynamic.

Bullshit holding call.

Cameraman is a Jets / Wilson shill. Moved to anticipate the pass rather than showing us the Burns sack.

Is Carter Jr wearing #4?

I want to see a more composed Sam Darnold that plays within the system Brady brought with him. That and a step up in the defence from last year - they have more tools to work with this.

So what you're saying is, in positions where the rookie is obviously better than the veteran incumbent, the rookie is starting? Gotcha.

I can't imagine Jordan knows the playbook at this point. That's a long term investment - again you might see him by midseason if the Oline is as bad as many fear.

I am acknowledging reality that they don't think an overweight 6th round pick is ready to start the season opener, yeah. If he's any good he'll work his way into the lineup - that's how Rhule operates.

Because he doesn't throw every rookie ever into the lineup? Horn is going to start, Marshall is (essentially) going to start. Tremble is going to see major minutes. Hubbard is apparently returning Kicks and first man off the bench at RB. Taylor and Nixon will rotate in on defence. How much more do you want?

"I don't think the defence is going to be great". fugouttahere

I swear to god, if you make this a race thing...

You'd dread August every year - new young QB brought in to challenge you, getting hit in the pre-season games. Survive that though and back to the red jersey and chillin' with your mates. The dream (if you know you're not good enough to start in the NFL).

This is all way OT from the thread, but I'll just finish with: I enjoyed that season. I was extremely disappointed we couldn't beat the corpse of Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl. We never recovered from that as a franchise. That team relied heavily on a handful of star players. It was unsustainable. Yes, it's only one season (and two offseasons), but Rhule's team last year was night and day to anything Rivera has fielded. They looked tough, physical, disciplined and amounted to far more than the sum of their parts. The injection of talent is like nothing we've seen around these part since Siefert was here.

Yeah the season felt good and was fun, but I didn't sit there thinking "this is the turning point for the franchise!". I thought "wow our drafting has been spotty af, just enjoy this while it lasts cos it's unsustainable".

Much like we drafted Davis to spy Vick, if I was in that division I'd be drafting an ultra athletic LB highly to do likewise. I still feel Murray is one hit away from a career ender. He's 5'10" but 8 of those inches are his forehead.

The 49ers O is the best to watch in the NFL imo. They move the line of scrimmage and gash teams with the run. It's beautiful to watch.

How'd that work out for us? Or was it, as I thought at the time, a flash in the pan season?

We never achieved back-to-back winning seasons. I always felt we had a handful of very good players, surrounded by dross with a poor HC and GM without a plan. The 2015 SB run we caught lightning in a bottle. If we were a good franchise we'd have built on that - instead we've been pretty terrible since as injuries caught up with those handful of star players.

We will see. This is the first time I've felt good about this franchise for a decade.

That's why the QB Coach is on record as trying to fix his footwork... I'm not saying that they didn't need to change his mindset too - but that's why you have the different tiers of coaches. HC and OC will mostly be interested in his decision making. QB Coach (and any position coach) will mostly be interested in his mechanics. Both needed adjustment, and it looks like both are being adjusted. The raw material is there in abundance.