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Its ok guys, Stroud was 214. Everyone knows 213lbs is the cut off. 213lbs or less and you have a small frame and you're likely to get injured. 214 to 225 or so and you're totally fine. No concerns there.

Another size bro trying to make the same point over and over it and trying to find a way to say the same thing for the millionth time and word it differently.

Does that factor in the fact that Stroud had the best receivers in college football the past couple years and is in a system specifically made to simplify things for the qb?

It has been shown time and time again that Tepper doesnt make the football decisions and hasn't. People need to move on from this take as a scapegoat for every decision they dont like.

Yea and they still arent like acl tears yet I don't think. Used to acl tears were bad bad news, now players return pretty much 100% of all their previous physical capabilities. Im not sure achilles are thar way just yet. Especially for such an undersized guy whose entire game was based on speed. CB is definitely high on the list. Evero's scheme relies on secondary. Thats where all your money is spent. The linebackers and dlineman are more plug and play in this system.

I like the idea of it and its going to be more efficient i suppose but a lot more can go wrong on a 20 play drive than a 5 or 6 play drive. One or two negative plays can throw the whole drive off.

The arm strength arguments are severely overrated. There were 8 completions of 60 air yards or more combined in the entire nfl last season. 4 of the 8 came from all time great qbs such as pj walker, ryan tannehill, sam howell, and the infamously strong armed Terry Bridgewater. Kyle Boller, Jamarcus Russell, all time strong arms as prospects. Let us also not forget that the potential future hall of gamer Baker Mayfield has the record for longest pass in the air in the NFL. Mahomes wasnt in the top 15 longest passes last year, but the panthers had two, PJ Walker #1 and Sammy D at 14.

Basically what you said is exactly how I feel about Stroud. Stroud is clearly the higher floor safer pick, Young has a higher ceiling and lower floor imo.

To be fair, what do they gain by saying anything is definitive. All you do is lose leverage and honestly they dont owe anything to us as fans and it could just potentially hurt things and help nothing. He said he hasnt had a full conversation with Frank yet but it was pretty clear which way he was leaning. People can keep arguing semantics that maybe theyre only 90% sure which way theyre leaning because obviously there are 9 days to go and technically anything could change, but he made it pretty clear they are strongly leaning a direction.

The loud anti young people are pro stroud.

The comfirmation bias in this place has gotten crazy. If theyre saying the player i want, then they obviously know what they're talking about. If theyre saying the player I dont want then they obviously dont know what theyre talking about and its all smoke screen.

What about Luck?

Top prospects skip them all the time actually. Once again for the people who refuse to listen. The combine is mostly for teams to network and for the fans. Nfl teams do not use the combine to decide who to draft. All they do is check to see if the performance lines up with what they saw on tape. Thats pretty much it, confirmation of positives and negatives. Besides interviews combines and pro days arent where they decide if a player can run or throw and they should draft them or not.

Ok first off its most likely not going to help taking it multiple times. Second off lets compare it to practicing for the 40 yard dash for example. First off there is a physical genetic limitation to how fast you can run regardless of how much you train for it. Second, if you run a 4.25 at the nfl combine and you practiced for the 40 since high school, guess what? You're still fast. Thats all that really matters.

The people who want to discount him will use it to discount him. Discount any positive and constantly talk about his size. Anything positive is a smokescreen and if hes the pick its because Tepper made the pick. Same ol song and dance, I don't think im forgetting anything.

Im not sure thats exactly how it works. There are definitely limitations to how fast someone can process things regardless of doing the test multiple times. Im fairly sure its randomized and the examples ive heard were things like 5 shapes flash up and one is different in some way and how many tenths of a second it takes you to recognize the different one. Its almost a measure of impulse. I know it takes a specific computer setup and network to make sure there is 0 latency to measure the tenths of a seconds or even less accurately.

Possibly but i disagree slightly. Chark was a 1 year deal so he is not any kind of long term solution and Thielen and Hurst are older vets who are known to be smart players and could be seen as coaches on the field to younger players. Kind of like Dalton will be for our rookie qb except more on the field will be expected from Thielen and Hurst. All that said I think the fact we had Tre Flowers in for a workout the other day and haven't signed any CBs and Evero's scheme relies heavily on the secondary makes me feel like CB is pretty high on their potential priorities.

Throwing a pretty ball is definitely a positive for qbs, but far from the #1 trait. Heck, some of the strongest armed prettiest ball throwing prospects have been the biggest busts in recent memory.

I think Young has a much higher ceiling while Stroud has a much higher floor.

They are blaming it on Tepper because they are refusing to admit to themselves that actual football people might think Young is a better prospect than Stroud because they dont want to be wrong.

I think a lot of lying is put out there but im not sure of the reasoning. You think if we take Young and Houston liked Stroud but now that they heard reports that hes not coachable, they will just throw away all their interviews and research becsuse of an anonymous media report? I dont think thats whats going on at all. I think its just with 24/7 sports media coversge there has to be something to talk about at all times. Some of it may end up being legit, some may not.

Yea, i mean Fitterer and Morgan are over player acquisition now and Suleiman does the financials. What role did he have anymore.

The coaches and scouts dont listen to the media at all to make their decisions. This is just for the fans and views unless teams are giving them the info to begin with

Statistically smaller qbs take less sacks.

At the combine Young weighed 204 and Stroud weighed 214 at 6'3. Apparently those 10lbs make all the difference in if you get hurt when you get sacked or not. Even if you say thats padded weight by Young there isnt this huge weight difference like people act. Especially if you consider the fact Stroud is so much taller which means those 10 pounds are stretched more thin. Even if you figure Young is 195, if you factor in height, Young has more mass than Stroud. 195 at 5'10 is more mass per inch of height than 6'3 214 lbs.