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It's not okay for 29 year old Renfrow to be 3rd in receptions but it is okay for soon to be 35 year old Thielen? Gotta love the huddle.

I've been a fan of the team for 20+ years. Never seen so much hand wringing over a rookie defender making a simple mistake while showing potential we've been begging for to the point we've eviscerated guys like Brian Burns countless times for low effort. Especially the year after the team fielded the worst defense in league history. It's comical all around. Spin it however you like. As far as Canales. While I like him and have hope for him and have been vocal about the things he does well. Let's keep it completely 100 here. 31 other coaches last year didn't make it a point to sit their starters out as much as possible and then ended up getting their doors blown off in their first two games. Dave Canales has not yet earned the benefit of the doubt anymore than anyone else with this franchise until they finally post a winning record. And once again everything goes back to so and so allegedly hating Bryce Young. Because apparently no other QB for this franchise has ever been scrutinized before Bryce Young came along. Ridiculous.

He was fined later on. But no flag because of course. Fug the Patriots. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/11/22/fines-marcus-cannon-leg-whipping-charles-johnson/3677955/

Wow I had not thought about that bs moment in a long time. Can't believe that was twelve years ago! Yessir he's second only to Julius Peppers in franchise history sacks. He deserves to be honored. Hopefully that is not far off.

It's interesting because if you go to the Panthers reddit thread about this there are a few comments about not touching the QB in practice but the majority love the energy from the rookie pass rusher. Some are saying Bryce needs to work on holding the ball regardless. And others are wondering aloud if Canales went overboard ending practice early. Nobody going off the deep end about Princely nearly putting Bryce Young in a full body cast like the huddle here.

People shout about how they want effort. They shout about how bad the defense is. Then they turn and around and attack rookie pass rushers on their personal Twitter accounts over a simple misunderstanding in the rookies first training camp. The only clowns in this situation are the ones flip flopping.

You're falling on deaf ears here man. These same people will be the first ones slinging all kinds of insults and obscenities in the gameday threads if and when the defense inevitably struggles just like they did all last season. Complaint after complaint after complaint after complaint about the defensive effort and how the defense didn't give a sh*t. It's hilarious.

Fields was touched? I'm not reading that anywhere. Injuries happen in camp preseason and the regular season. And they do regularly to positions across the roster. Our backup QB was held out and sent back to the bench over a simple thumb sprain that happened away from the team. If it's going to happen it's going to happen. Going around whailing at rookies with a megaphone like lunatics isn't going to change the fact that Bryce Young is a small QB and he's going to get hit and he also has a tendency to turn the ball over. Focus on the things that ultimately matter and truly effect winning and losing.

It looks like some people around here have become so accustomed to the losing and milquetoastery of this franchise under the ownership of the Tepper's they don't even recognize that's what they've become. Sad times for the huddle.

Hmm. Can we pause a moment here? Let me get this straight......... You'll go out of your way to literally spam poo reactions over someone accurately describing Andy Dalton for what he currently is as a QB no matter how nice of a guy and how much we like him. But then you'll go completely out of your way to randomly trash Charles Johnson who has actually helped this franchise win games? The clownery is simply astounding.

It truly amazes me that there are people in this fanbase so brazenly averse to simple realities. I mean we're over here desperate AF to establish a culture. Really any kind of culture. And some of you need to have this explained to you why it looks pitiful to try and publicly drag a rookie over minor things like this. You deserve a poverty franchise "bro".

Couple things. One. I've been pretty vocally pro Canales all things considered. Two. Protecting the football is absolutely a real concern. The 6 total turnovers (not including another fumble that was luckily recovered) Bryce Young has in the first two games of 2023 and 2024 very much confirm this.

He made a play. Nothing happened. He's a rookie. He's learning. As a fan who is tired of this team embarrassing us and themselves I'm inclined to be more concerned about the starting QB turning the ball over twice already. If we don't protect the football it's going to be another long season.

This overbearing response to a rookie in his first camp is corny and embarrassing. You'd almost be under the mistaken impression this was a competitive football franchise. Where was our defense ranked again last year? When was the last time we had a winning season?

In fairness we're also hoping and praying that particular corner will also remain relatively healthy.

Not that much of a stretch he's only 29. At this point he's likely to contribute as much or more than Thielen at a fraction of the cost.

For me it's the combination of the loyalty to two aging veterans paired with whatever is going on at linebacker. Just a little too much of the same old Panthers. I can't imagine this news about Jewell just came out of left field. I don't expect them to have corrected the linebacker room entirely but there's really no excuse to have allowed it to be this thin either.

I don't agree with stifling the confidence of a rookie pass rusher on a defense that gave up the most points in history last season. Unfortunately we won't be able to give opposing pass rushers a stern talking to about stripping the ball away from our QB. It's been an issue for us and it's something Bryce needs to clean up. I'd be much more focused on that as the head coach but it's not my job at stake.

I more often end up just rewatching games after the fact or using other "alternatives" for live games. I mean I couldn't even watch a fuging summer league game without a subscription. This sh*t is beyond out of hand.

4 year contract. So 2028.

CJ Stroud is 23 years old and already has 2 more career playoff wins than our legendary backup. It really isn't that up in the air.

No one here is going to argue with the fact that Reich was not up to the task and ultimately beyond his expiration date in the NFL. And yes many of the things Colts fans said comically came to fruition here. At the same time. We also don't need to go around doing the Tepper's bidding by blaming it solely on him. Because there is also the reality that even after we fired Reich the offense worsened. And even after purging his staff firing our GM and hiring a new coach the Panthers started out last season with two of the ugliest games in franchise history. Let's process the entire picture here but also recognize Reich was a convenient scapegoat as well.

All one has to do is look around the NFL and look at the teams without cemented elite QB's and see that they're front offices and coaching staffs are not content with just having a QB pushing 40 and an afterthought UDFA behind their penciled in starter. And no matter how optimistic we are about Bryce Young given how he finished last season the position is anything but cemented by him. If someone out there thinks that the Panthers are ahead of the curve above these other teams some of which have actually been to the playoffs at any point in the last decade that's their prerogative but it's sheer fantasy at this point.

The day he finally unloads the happenings of that entire process will be very entertaining. It will be very unkind to the Tepper's to say the least.

9 million on Adam Thielen and 8 million on Andy Dalton (over 100 million in career earnings now) while we have nothing at linebacker is certainly a look. Hey we're just happy to be here!