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Makes sense to me. I'm fine with either based on the positives of their tape. Of course it goes both ways though. Some folks who are wanting to drag Stroud really need him to be mediocre at best. If he balls out the comparisons will follow these guys that's just how it goes.

If you think CJ has character issues but you see no problem with skipping the combine and being dodgy about playing weight you can't be taken seriously. I've had football related questions about all three of these top prospects but nothing I've seen or heard gives me reason to doubt them as human beings. This is some 2011 nonsense. Microaggressions.

You can definitely see some flaws in Stroud's game and the question of how he will respond to pressure is a legit one. But Bryce Young is not without his questionable moments on tape either. That is where this whole discussion gets to a point where you look around and see maybe some folks judgement is being clouded. If either of these two QB's were head and shoulders above the other we might not be sitting at #1 overall. Hopium is a hell of a drug. It's probably best to adjust expectations and not expect a magician out of Young right away. Let him show us.

Does he have a fake smile too?

I think most people just don't want to see another very talented QB fall apart physically too early. The concerns are valid and there's nothing wrong with that. Someone has to be right and someone has to be wrong. Revisiting these threads years from now will serve for us to either laugh or cry. Hopefully the former after what has become a fun ride.

If it's actually the coaches and Fitt's decision then go for it. If it involves any of this Mr and Mrs Tepper tomfoolery I don't get good vibes about it. Let the football people call it.

Sounds like bullshit.

I really haven't seen any rabid Stroud guys here. But you me and any other Panthers fan better hope CJ and Richardson are mid at best because the comparisons aren't going anywhere. Hopefully Young is everything some folks are hyping. Because if not? Whew buddy! Here's to hoping

We've got quite a lot invested in the secondary already not sure how much more we can risk. 1st round top ten pick another on a significant contract coming off an achilles tear another we traded a 3rd for. Not much wiggle room.

One thing is for sure. The folks who are hella sensitive and pooing posts about the size issue might as well buckle in because it isn't going anywhere and our rivals and opponents will be sure to let us know about it.

And about half of twitter while we're at it lol

Won't believe anything until the pick is announced either way. I just don't see how the NFL wants picks being tipped weeks before the draft. They want this drawn out and all the drama and talk with it.

Valid point. He only went on to become the first TE with three consecutive 1k yard seasons with Cam throwing him the ball.

Oh shush lol. I like a lot of things about Bryce Young’s tape. But just like Stroud and Richardson there are some things that make you go hmm. I will fully support any of the top 3. Draft talk is just talk. When it comes to football your team is your team and your guy is your guy. As long as he doesn't stink up the joint

By that standard so was Ryan. He was an MVP. I think both were above average. Is Brees legit hall of fame worthy? Eh not my call to make. I think he did a great deal of stat padding in the regular season. It is what it is.

Absolutely that's off the table. And honestly it probably would be either way unless we draft AR. No use risking your first overall pick early. That's why we signed Sanders anyway.

I didn't realize we had some Drew Brees fans lurking in this fanbase all these years. Cringe.

Yeah of course but it damn sure should be for the smallest QB in the league. Fans who think defensive coordinators and pass rushers are going to be super delicate with him because we drafted him first overall and he has a hype machine behind him should accustom themselves to reality.

You don't actually believe this do you? If Young's the pick no way we sit pat with this mentality. We should and will solidify the oline. It will need to be one of the top units in football.

Brees is overrated AF and only made it to one conference championship in his final decade in the league. Thanks in large part to Cam Newton. If we are selling ourselves on Young I'd rather focus on him being 1of1 based on his height/weight rather than continually trying to shoehorn comparisons to Brees and Wilson.

Yeah he had a particularly ugly RZ INT in the end zone. Which when you consider all the talk about Stroud's struggles against pressure you would think you'd never see that from Young. There's things to like from both prospects but the fangirling is leading to some takes essentially suggesting Young has significantly less potential bust possibility than Stroud. And that's just not reality. They both have their looming cons and that's why Chicago moved out of 1.

It's not just about injuries but also overcoming a disadvantage against defenses. Smaller details become more apparent at the next level. At this stage there's too little data to suggest his size will hinder his career or not because there have just been so few in his height/weight range. But defensive coordinators will be looking over that Bama tape same as us and they will hone in on the LSU game in particular.

Well. We hope Will Levis isn't being considered. And if Young had the lead as the best undisputed prospect of his class and generational QB level hype confirmed Chicago wouldn't have budged in any trade. The consensus says the gap between the top 3 isn’t as wide as others suggest

Those voices are getting louder eh?