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Lawrence and Young do not belong in the same conversation the arm strength between the two are in different universes. Trevor has the elite arm traits. That's the bridge you want to ignore between Lawrence throwing what he did and Young. Some of the throws I saw Young make last night were reminiscent of the likes of Clausen. It's okay to admit that. I can still be a Panthers fan and not be a drone that never says anything negative.

You could link Young with any number of former or current QB's based on that criteria it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. He's an outlier amongst outliers himself. You are in your feels coping and lashing out. That's fine. I'll agree to disagree.

Are any of them 5'10 with questionable arm strength? You folks search and search and search for outliers to fit your narratives and feed your feels you did the same thing with Sam Darnold. Stop coddling the kid and comparing him to good or elite QB's until he proves he can even hang with the Falcons or Saints who are without Matt Ryan and Drew Brees. Have some standards for goodness sake.

I can't say Jimmy Clausen our worst starting QB in 27 years is the only bar to exceed but you can compare Young to Lawrence and whoever else. You aren't seeking intelligent conversation you are seeking an echo chamber. Sorry this isn't that.

*Announcer voice* "And now it looks like the Panthers are taking their #1 pick off the field and bringing out Andy Dalton on 4th and short"

The sad thing is Ron Rivera would still be an upgrade over our head coach. Let that sink in.

I recommend not mistaking your obvious coping mechanism for intelligent conversation. Enjoy your day my friend 🫡

Drew Brees Josh Allen Trevor Lawrence do you not see that you folks are just aimlessly throwing out names hoping something sticks so you can comfort yourself?

My guy Jimmy Clausen is the only bar I expect any Panthers QB to surpass. That is not an unreasonable expectation.

Less than 100 yards passing for almost an entire game is abysmal. No he isn't a sure fire bust and we cannot write him off but at the same time some of ya'll need to just admit your standards have sunken below the earth's crust. We didn't draft this kid in the mid rounds. We traded a haul to select him.

I think Young has the right mental make up to become a starter in this league. But the physical limitations that were often talked about pre-draft but shouted down by people who latched onto him by leading with their emotion are going to be very challenging to overcome. I know we've disagreed on different things over the course of Panthers fandom. But I hope you can agree there's a legitimate level of concern there. I mean we really took our #1 pick off the field multiple times in favor of Andy Dalton to move the sticks in short yardage. If we weren't Panthers fans we would be laughing our asses off.

Reich looks to be the offensive equivalent of Ron Rivera. We won't see Gerry Green (formerly known as iamhubby1) until we get a win and he'll act like he's been here all along and not on a milk carton when it happens I've let the Cam thing go. He was once in a generation. The Colts tried to draft a QB and use him the same way it didn't even last two games. We won't see another Cam for a very long time. It's best to turn the page and not live in the past.

I like Ellis but we don't need more mindless drones parroting the Panthers front office and the Tepper's.

I hear ya. I'm just trying to think about possibly salvaging the trade package we gave up. At the end of the day as a fan I am just not sure we will ever see consistent success under this ownership. Hell we can't even get one winning season. But that's where the buck stops. It's been one trainwreck to the next.

Brother if we traded all that we did and what could very well end up being a top 5 pick next year for a game manager or system QB... ohh wee mayne.

Calling our #1 pick quarterback a "point guard" to anyone that would listen was cringe af and now is even more embarrassing after our first two starts. Holy fug people compared this poor kid to Steph Curry. And spammed poo reactions on anyone that had slight concerns. Yet where are they? Quiet or totally MIA.

Really it all begins with Tepper. He's a meddler. He had a significant hand in the first overall pick as well as the trade itself to 1. As critical as I am of Scott Fitterer and now Reich I don't believe for a minute Tepper and his wife sat on their hands and let everyone else decide who to pick with very little involvement. They made their push for who they wanted.

Dwayne Jarrett.

153 passing yards and that's only because of one garbage time drive otherwise he was under 100 yards for 95% of the game. You can't blame everyone else when it was Bryce himself throwing the ball all over the place except where it needed to go at crucial points in the game. The good thing is he has 15 games left in his rookie season. But he damn sure isn't going to become what some folks here have dreamed up in their heads by coddling him and telling him he's doing great.

5 wins would be a miracle with how inept our offense has been against two mediocre divisional opponents. This defense could sneak us into the playoffs if Scott Fitterer knew how to build a roster.

I've perused only about 3 or 4 threads this morning and I've already seen him compared to Drew Brees and Josh Allen. Guys. There is coping and then there is madness.

When I look at how hard some folks are coping with what happened last night I'm reminded this same lot was once Matt Rhule believers and also thought we could salvage Sam Darnold.

I'm still laughing thinking about this. Only our Panthers could draft a QB at 1 and have to take him off the field multiple times due to his limitations.

At this point after how he played last night I would be happy if he's just a decent starter for the next several years for us. I guess anything could happen. But let's be honest the comparing our guy to hall of famers coping mechanism hasn't done us any favors. He's not in that zip code. Maybe he could be someday. I don't know that it will be with this staff and our GM definitely isn't doing him any favors with the incompetence in building a real NFL offense around a QB.

Not losing sleep over trading a running back. Virtually all of his other moves are meh or terrible though.