frankw

Murray and other quarterbacks in their own contract predicaments are due to the owners. The NFL has created a situation with these QB contracts where it is a bubble waiting to burst. Now they are trying to blame the players for the mess they have created. The QB market and the WR market in particular are insane now. I think the draft is the best solution. The cruel irony of it all is if we had either took one last year or just held onto Teddy another year we would still have our 2nd rounder this year and we could take our QB/LT combo in this draft without agonizing over trades.

For the record I don't want either. But I especially don't want another manchild who thinks coming off one of his worst seasons is the best time to complain about fans for hurting his feelings. Neither Baker or Sam are leaders. That's all there is to it. We need better.

Maybe you should ditch the Antonio Brown avy if you are going to drive the "Robby is a diva GTFO" train

Baker Mayfield pulled a Sam Darnold and took to calling out fans for booing instead of owning his struggles as a QB like an adult. That mentality is a big part of why the market for his services has dwindled. In that aspect he is less desirable than even a guy who hasn't played QB in years like Kaepernick.

Out in the open with it tonight I see

Baker Mayfield is not a good leader lol. We would go from Sam Darnold who has zero leadership abilities to Baker who is toxic to his own teammates. How is that better?

I am skeptical of Jordan as owner he has certainly had a key role in this mess. As far as pay though how do you know we didn't try to lure big name coaches? Even with similar salary offered to what they could make in a big market do they want to come here? Borrego is averaging 2 million a year. Do you think he should be paid more? He's making comparable salary to other beginner head coaches. His salary reflects the state of the team and our standing in the NBA. Which sadly as of now is a doormat. You can blame Mike you can blame Mitch you can blame the lack of defensive effort but the buck stops with James on the play-in game debacle

There is wiggle room with the salary cap and I don't think it is as doomsday inducing as some have suggested in the past. But it is entertaining seeing takes shift from cap hell to cheering Fitterer for playing 4D chess pulling the same moves Hurney did.

If these folks with knives out for Robby don't have the same for Sam I gotta give em' the side eye. Especially since nobody else on the team is sounding off on podcasts.

Do not want Baker. This Robby hate is hilarious. If you think he sucks because he had 1000 drops last year that's one thing but I am glad someone is saying what we are thinking in regards to these QB options.

It was always a pointless Madden GM mode kind of trade now it is confirmed.

Who knows exactly what he heard or who from. Does it really change our already negative perception of Rhule anyway? I try not to get too worked up about it anymore because honestly I don't see it as a given that he is gone after this year. Tepper is a stubborn mule folks should have figured this out by now.

I love these conversations you can see who will immediately shift to a "greedy players" take while overlooking the owners pulling in tens of billions annually which is only increasing btw. If the owners have a problem with other players not playing out contracts then they should stop overseeing record breaking deals for their own respective rosters that instantly raise contracts across the board for every other team.

McShay is a weasel name dropping for attention.

Standards should be higher. You can't even fall back on development at that point if your group can't even show up for the most consequential game in consecutive seasons. That's not a well coached basketball team.

This is what you get when you let a used care salesman run your whole operation

I still can't believe they did it again last night even after talking about how they know how bad last years play-in was. I'm expecting James Borrego to return though. This franchise is what it is and I hate to finally admit it but I think it begins with Jordan. How do you have the GOAT as your owner and put such a lackluster group effort on the court with the talent we have? T-U-R-R-I-B-L-E.

Minshew is honestly a slight upgrade over Darnold. He has a personality and a better QB brain but who doesn't at this point? We're talking about the worst starting QB last year. Moving back to 16 or 19 for Minshew and a 2nd and a 3rd and patting ourselves on the back for getting a few dimes and a nickle for a quarter is no better than Jimmy G or Mayfield. If folks could accept it I understand I'm just saying he is not what some are hyping him to be. Nobody else has beat down Philly's door for his services or even Jacksonville's for that matter and you know how quarterback desperate this league is.

To move up to six they would have to send us more than Minshew and a few picks. They got him for a conditional sixth round pick. I wouldn't be against him here but his value around the league is pretty clear. The huddle vastly overrates him.

Well he was available for a reason.

At this point as low as we've already sunk if it gets Hayward and that contract off us just do it. I still don't believe Jordan will fire James Borrego after the recent extension though. He just can't help himself.

No intensity no hustle letting randos just stroll in layups and watching them pour it on from three. Anybody not named LaMelo and Miles needs to be considered in a trade package moving forward. Zero culture on this team.