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I'm glad he's playing better. Almost everyone here likes Icky and wants to see him do well. Now we just need to see how he finishes the season. We have so many needs it would be fantastic if everything is finally starting to click for our left tackle.

We hired an offensive head coach and proceeded to gut the defense in order to build up the offense around the smallest QB in the league. Sorry if isn't fair but Dave Canales has to figure something out. He took the job.

So far I like what Lee is doing. Hopefully this Hornets team will at least give us some fun basketball to watch even if they don't win much for the time being.

The life of a Carolina Panthers fan summed up.

We sold the defense in a last ditch effort so we could throw a ton of money to try and salvage the worst starting QB in the league. Within two games it was a wrap. I'm done hearing fluff from the GM the coach the players whoever. Bring that poo around here you're going to get nothing but mocked. And to think within the last week some of these players told fans to take the bags off their heads. They really showed up big for the fans. Trash!

I am years removed from getting "mad" about the happenings within this franchise. Disappointment and utter embarrassment are the norm. That will only continue under David Tepper and his wife.

It's absolutely his fault he can't operate within an NFL pocket has awful footwork and throws on his tippy toes. All of the predraft hype around him was nothing more than smoke and mirrors. With Dalton we still suck we just suck a little less. He at least more often than not is capable of attempting all the throws that open up the field. Today was a letdown across the board. Back to the drawing board with our staff. Have to wait and see how they finish the season. If the team is still looking like this by the end of the year Canales will rightfully get plenty of deserved criticism sent his way. A lot can happen in a few months we'll see.

Steve has great insight on many things overall but as far as evaluating goes anyone can get it wrong and he is no different. His takes should not be disregarded but also not placed on a pedestal either. As far as being a mouthpiece for Tepper idk if I would go that far but he has carried some water to a degree all homerism aside I think anyone who has watched this unfold the last few years should be able to readily acknowledge that. It's best not to put too much stock in these things going forward. Especially the fluff pieces that involve former players talking up this guy or that guy. Show it on the field. Until then. Meh.

If "see it wasn't Bryce Young's fault" is all someone takes from today they are beyond help and just pushing an agenda. And regardless of the QB situation we are on our third coaching staff in three years already. If you want to keep being the doormat to the entire league then keep firing coaches every year and see where that gets you.

There was never any honeymoon only a brief period of release of knowing that we could actually at least halfway compete with a QB willing to make all the throws more often than not. Andy Dalton seemed like the smoking hot girl at the bar by proximity due to how bad the other QB was. What we are seeing now is on the coaching staff. Canales and his staff have to show they can consistently compete in this league circumstances aside. Every team deals with injuries every team loses talent and every team has to pick up the pieces somehow some way. We need to see the staff do that now the rest of the way through the season. Nobody wants to hear about this or that anymore. Just give people some semblance of hope more often than not. Today was not that.

Unfortunately we're the new Browns.

There were a number of mitigating circumstances you have to acknowledge. At the same time. This was a matchup that our team should have been circling as a game to show up big in even if we didn't win. To say the least the Bears and the Panthers are connected for all the wrong reasons and this was a game we really needed to look at least competent in as a sign of goodwill to the fanbase. Today was a really bad look for Canales and Co no matter how you might want to rationalize it. No excuses.

We really put Bryce in to finish this one? Man these people truly hate the fanbase lol.

The incredibly low bar of Bryce Young (basically worst ever) has clouded us about Dalton. He's who he's always been. Great guy great teammate. But he's at the tail end of his career and was available to us for a reason.

Safe to say maybe let's not throw any big money contracts out anytime soon. Stack assets. Draft studs.

Haven't been able to watch. How bad is it?

Looking at this list 20M a season would be reasonable. I doubt he wants that though. Anyone in his position would be aiming much higher.

This is a perfectly rational and reasonable position for a Panthers fan to take. Doesnt mean one doesn’t like Diontae Johnson. Hell I wanna keep him. I like him. But that doesn't mean I'm just going to ignore any red flags in this situation. That's how we've gotten into many messes over the years. It's become business as usual. Let's just try to avoid that where possible. Going forward that's all I ask.

Keep pooing posts big homie. Hope your Saturday gets better. It's a beautiful day out there.

You're getting hung up on talent. I'm not comparing their talent level. Obviously Diontae is a significantly better wide receiver and as far as I know a very good teammate. This is an assessment based on salary cap allocation and risk level at this juncture. These things have to be considered for the good of the franchise. And let's remember. A franchise that has a distinct reputation for making dicey to downright awful decisions. That's why I said moreso I want to let Canales be the driving force for what direction we go here. He will know better than anyone.

If you don't see any parallels at all you are choosing not to. Doesn't matter what your personal opinion is. Remove emotion from the equation. The financial and situational comparison is very much valid. Considering a high cost extension with a small sample size for a WR who will be 29 next season. In this case we haven't even seen Diontae play a full season here yet and we're talking upwards of 25 million a season. We must learn from the mistakes of Scott Fitterer and move forward with a necessary level of skepticism.

I'm going back and forth with this. On the one hand the Panthers have had a definitive void at the WR position for years since 89 left the building. Moore was the only one of the last ten years to even begin to approach that level of production. Unfortunately that's over and done with and can't be undone. What we have left is to consider other signings. How about that Robby Anderson extension many of us liked at the time based on one season? I'm in favor of just slowing things down and taking our time. Ultimately I'll go with whatever Canales thinks is the best route. Certainly he knows what he wants out of the position group. If he deems Diontae a part of the core going forward and his contract expectations are reasonable you go from there. If not then you do what you have to and revisit all this in the offseason. It's not going to be resolved right now regardless. This is and has always been a developmental season.