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We never had a chance to draft "life after football" Trevor Lawrence anyway why is he even relevant here? I hope the Jags fall apart like they always do fug em.

With a situation like this whispers and speculation and league sources are all there is. Has anyone from any team front office given a public indication they are pursuing Watson? The most I've seen recently is Joe Ellis with the Broncos and all he said was that he can't comment on a player under contract from another team. Nobody wants the league on their back over tampering.

"One of the unfortunate consistencies of linebacker Denzel Perryman’s career has been injuries. Chest, shoulder, hamstring, knee, ankle, hamstring again, a variety of other knee injuries and back. Just to get a taste of it. In his six seasons with the Chargers organization, Perryman played in 69 of a potential 96 regular-season games. He missed an average of 4.5 games per season." https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article250211125.html

He did though. Do you forget the constant hand wringing about him being a sore loser when he first got here? What was the Panthers recent culture to that point other than the worst playoff meltdown in years followed by Jimmy Clausen? Now losing is no biggie again. But we were more relevant and actually competitive within the division more often than not. The one good season followed by a disappointing season formula was as much due to poor management as it was poor coaching and poor execution. As much flack as Hurney rightfully received Gettleman may have actually been worse from a full picture. Wasted first rounders letting talent walk out the door and then orchestrating the worst free agency signing in franchise history all in the midst of a closing window with a championship core still in place. Then Hurney came back and only exacerbated existing issues. Cam Newton finally breaking down physically was just the final straw but it all began with mismanagement. The blunders sunk us.

He's from the QC

We also saw the flip side to that any time our last franchise quarterback had a bad pass or lost a game. Welcome to sports.

No matter how triggered some may get by it eyes will be directed toward him as the season progresses if Carolina doesn't appear to be trending upward in the fall. That's sports baby!

With 20 people you would think they could make the content less underwhelming. The only narrative they should be concerned with is not being garbage in the nfc south.

I saw some of your Teddy posts it's okay man we all make mistakes. True perspective can only be discovered through struggle. Carolina has been through it in just 12+ months. There were big lessons to be learned from the failure of Cam Newton and Teddy B. You can't place the world on one guys shoulders but you also can't shower someone with praise and expect them to get better either. If it is a question they can't take it to that next level letting go has to be under consideration. Winning is all that matters as has been said time and time again.

Can't say he is wrong. This is a young team still searching for an identity and trying to establish a new culture. That is formed via leadership and there are layers to stuff like this. Need someone to help this team find that next gear for this upcoming season to turn those close losses into more wins. I am very relieved Kirkwood is okay though.

Boy folks really went all in on that signing. If you didn't fall in line it was off with your head. Twas a dreadful season to make it through but looking back to see just how wrong the loudest were about it was a gift.

Quote the posts where I have said he sucks he should be cut he will never be good or that I don't want him. Not overlooking mistakes or flaws is not the same as being unsupportive. With this logic would you argue that for the better part of ten years a substantial portion of the Panthers fanbase was not supportive of Cam Newton?

Dave truly is the Teflon Don to have lasted through the unmitigated disaster that has been the NY Giants the last couple of years.

There's a reason even he wasn't expecting Carolina to offer what they did.

Typically every quarterback shoulders the burden if the offense fails that's the way it goes. Doesn't matter who thinks it's fair. Best of luck Sam!

He was the fan club president.

Funny the guy who had a Kyle Allen avatar for months would be this sensitive over the slightest Sam Darnold criticism

Good for him good for us. I wish him luck.

Just how often do you suppose we will win if our qb throws multiple pick sixes though? Favre threw a ton of picks overall. 336 total and only less than 13 in a season once and as many as 29 in a single season. He had a lengthy career but that was a different time. Sam will need that resiliency in our division but we gotta keep him upright. We'll see.

Do want Markkanen.

Oh absolutely the secondary is more of a challenge now which is a good thing. With Teddy he was efficient but early on some people were pointing out his penchant for short throws and wobbly long passes. Okung was a different guy for sure but he was serviceable he just didn't stay on the field long enough. The bitchiness factor is largely to do with how things ended last season. There were fans who rode the Teddy train all the way off a cliff because they didn't want to acknowledge his faults until the bitter end and some never did. Darnold is younger has better tools and has higher upside than Teddy so the bar should be higher to say the least.

Do that many current teams even have designed run plays for quarterbacks anymore beyond the goal line or 3rd and 4th down situations? Mobile quarterbacks are still going to be very much a part of the future of the league but running qb's like Cam with a substantial number of designed runs are likely to become less common. In any event there is a balance to be had. The Panthers did not find that balance and they failed to build with surrounding talent. Thus the results we ended up with.

I've given Rhule a mulligan on the Teddy signing because he was not a failure in the sense that he was a terrible quarterback he just didn't have the killer instinct to finish games and he couldn't handle criticism. That being said his limitations that held us back were on game tape and should have been clearer to Joe and Matt if they were truly that familiar with him. I can only take them at their words and they had plenty to say about him last spring. Now they are all on the clock with Sam. It is an uphill battle given expectations are for him to make a rather miraculous turnaround in one offseason. That may not be fair but that's how sports go and how fans think. The best thing Rhule and Co have going for them right now are the additions at other positions they have made in a short time. But like any other team or staff the pesky quarterback conundrum can and will sink even the nicest ship.

I believe this is my first camp thread remarking on his passes. But also it was specifically about a pick six though. That detail will garner a little more attention. Look we all know Sam has the arm and the ability it boils down to that next step. We want him to take it but this is the stuff he has to get out of his system now.