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The Panthers made splash signings and trades at QB with both Hurney and Fitterer. Big contract to Teddy Bridgewater big trade for Sam Darnold trade for Baker Mayfield. Trade all the way up to #1 for Bryce Young. They kept upping the ante every time. That's because the Tepper's were always in the room.

At this point we're used to the Panthers making poor decisions so nothing should shock anyone. And at the end of the day the Tepper's are still very much guiding the direction of the operation of this franchise.

Considering how wide the gap is between our spending on the offense versus the defense for the year I would say overall the defense has held up their end of the bargain and then some. Now it's up to the offense to manage more than one measly trip to the end zone.

CJ Stroud and Davis Mills are playoff winners bud it is what it is no amount of paragraphs or calling others dicks is going to change that. If it angers you then maybe speak to someone.

I've rarely heard anyone ever use this metric but for some reason you're using it to push an agenda for a practice squad QB who has 800+ less attempts than the guy you're drawing a comparison to. You've gone off the deep end.

I want to see our passing offense operate at a level that isn't marginally better than when Jimmy Clausen was QB. There's a whole world of middle ground between that and throwing for 400 yards every game. If you can't handle that the problem is you.

Teams are putting things like this on social media for better or worse it isn't limited to just being at our expense. That's social media now. As far as the play it does not appear intentional. If it was we would know it when we see it given our history. Honestly Bryce is lucky he is playing in this era I legitimately don't think he would have survived 15 or 20 yeara ago compared to what is considered roughing the passer now.

If Bryce Young didn't have a higher YPA than a practice squad QB after throwing the ball 811 more times he would be the worst QB in NFL history.

Now THIS is worthy of a Mic'd up. Finally something we can all agree on.

You're comparing 324 attempts to 1135 attempts and whailing at others for making dumb arguments. Take a break.

The scope of the limitations is so far beyond long bombs. Nobody here is clamoring for us just to run straight up go routes on repeat. There are crucial throws defenses know we can't convert such as down the sideline that almost always result in either the ball going several feet over the receivers head out of bounds or the receiver having to leap into the air and make an acrobatic attempt to haul it in or having to completely slow down or stop. It's off the table and defenses know it and sooner or later we were going to walk into another buzzsaw like against the Patriots. Nobody here is in love with Hendon Hooker or Mike White. It wasn't us who made the decision to ignore the depth of the QB room two years in a row. You can whail at people for discussing it all you want. If you're that triggered by the discussion then call up Dan Morgan and bitch at him about the fact we are having to discuss the likes of Dalton Hooker or White. It isn't our fault.

He's on his 4th team in 4 years. Ultimately he was available for a reason. Our FO had the opportunity to not back themselves into this corner. But the onus is now on Canales. I sure hope he's up to it.

Well hold on let's pause for a second and establish some things first since we're on the subject of "cop outs with no room for nuance". Our own QB has 37 games under his belt. Many of them are either subpar or just plain bad. We only just this past Sunday won our 2nd road game in his career. But months and months of contentious discussion since his rookie season has largely resulted in the oft used argument that Bryce Young's struggles were due to the coaching and players around him and ultimately he couldn't be blamed. But now apparently it seems like you folks have fully tossed that out and are actively blaming Stroud while wholly omitting contributing circumstances around him. So which is one it????? As far as Brees. Look I've got to be direct here. I cannot stand that guy. But I would have to concede that he had a significantly better arm than Bryce Young. I mean it's not even close. Plus as much as it annoys me to say it's clear Drew Brees wasn't afraid to hit the weight room either. And Baker has obviously always had arm talent that showed on the tape even when he was struggling or being a tool. Acknowledging all of this is the first step in gaining a firm footing in reality with the rest of us.

How is it not relevant? His physical talent allows him to make high level throws in just about any circumstance. On the run. Off platform. Off his backfoot. His problem was always the mental aspect. It's always going to be easier for a guy like that to dig himself back into starting jobs than someone who does not have that advantage built in.

It's interesting you perceive a simple acknowledgement of reality in terms of where we are on the ladder across the league as a franchise as flexing. But that is not at all surprising to me. I remember you arguing with me about our awful QB room earlier in the year and specifically Andy Dalton. Everything with you seems to circle back to trying to carry water for Bryce Young. You should get on the payroll bud. Don't work for free.

Panthers obviously laughably mismanaged that situation all around. But he's ultimately where he wanted to be. Big city bright lights.

What in your view is the goal? Is what ultimately amounts to winning individual meaningless games like the Panthers have been doing while never competing for their division or the postseason the last 8+ years the bar? Or is it actually winning in the postseason? This team hasn't sniffed the playoffs in nearly a decade. To try and dunk on teams and players who have is pitiful. You can argue otherwise if it makes you feel better. Do what makes you happy.

I'm legitimately howling that this got you to login. As if you couldn't Google Davis Mills playoff record yourself or that I would make it up. Get a grip.

Is crapping on CJ Stroud who already has 2 career playoff wins going to make any of our QB's any better or...? Even one of the Texans backup QB's has a playoff win. I mean hey if you get your jollies off dunking on that do your thing but going around crying about others not knowing football because they don't cosign whatever is you're doing is toddler behavior.

They struggled against the Falcons but before that they started out 4-0 and only lost to the Patriots by 3 points while we flat out got wiped off the field by that same team. They're coming off a bye and looking for a get right game. Don't mistake this for a cakewalk. The best thing going for us right now is it's a home game but if our offense has a repeat of wasting drives like they did last week against the 0-6 Jets it might be over quick.

Revisionist history. Virtually no one in the NFL sphere was saying this when they drafted him. Many agreed he would be a project to develop slowly over the course of a few years.

Unfortunately that's what's available out there right now. Sure hope Dan Morgan is learning something.

It's less of an uphill battle to build a redemption story when you have the physical tools. He also has a playoff win. Honestly amuses me to see people downplaying him considering what we've become accustomed to at QB over the course of 37 games.

The only question now is how long does it last. Rico is a hell of a runner but staying power for RB's just isn't what it used to be anymore.