Panthers Rhule

I'm more surprised that people actually still use FB.

I didn't say only pocket passers. But a QB should be able to throw from the pocket most of the time and run to extend plays or when nothing is there. Running for over 2000 yds in 2 seasons is not throwing the ball very much. Throw first and run to throw later and if all else fails run down field. That's what Wilson does. He's a mobile QB, not a running QB. See the difference? My photo over on the left is a mobile QB but not a running QB. Mobile QBs are great. Running QBs are not. That's my point. I don't know why people can't understand the difference. Willis is a running QB, not a mobile QB.

I agree with this. But I don't think that's what this thread is about. It's about having your QB run for 800 yards a season and drafting him because he can do that when he can't throw very well.

No, basically teams with throwing RBs have never and will never win in the NFL. It's a passing league now. You can't make a duck into a chicken. You are the one living in the flat world if you think the answer is running the ball with your QB. Should we bring in the old Wishbone offense?

QBs are supposed to THROW the football, not RUN it!

Is he supposed to be ready to play by day 1? I was thinking he'd miss the beginning of the season. Except neither of them fit the system. Pickett fits our new system perfectly.

Yes. For me it wasn't even the football point but the human point. There was no way he should have been on that field. I don't usually yell at my TV that way but I knew he was in danger out there. I'd only seen that once before. I think it was Bernie Kosar with the Browns playing on a broken foot but he never appeared in danger only injured. RG3 looked in danger to me in that game and he was.

Yes, it was. I thought he was being overhyped too because I thought injuries would be an issue but I never disliked the kid. When I was watching that game I was yelling at the TV "take him out, take him out! He's hurt. You're going to get him killed!" I had to turn off the game and go sit outside to calm down when he went down the last time. I'm an emotional guy and that bothered me in so many ways. But mainly I was just disgusted.

I agree 100%. I don't think he means involved as in interfering. He's acting like an owner of a business. We saw this in the video last pre-season. He was sitting with his GM and HC and going through their process and asking questions and listening to their answers. Basically, he was making sure everything was getting done the way is was supposed to and that they were ready to do their jobs. He wasn't questioning their choices only their process which is what any good manager or in this case, owner, should do. You make sure your guys have gone through every possibility and thought everything out as best as possible to make sure they are not unprepared for their very important task.

Yeah, we all have our evaluations. Me too. I think there will definitely be a player worth drafting at 6. Pickett (I know, not a popular choice but that's my evaluation), Cross is worth it imo. He's my preferred LT wherever he's drafted. I think he's the most ready to come in and start immediately. He'll need time to develop into a great LT as all LTs do but he's ready. Same for Pickett. He's the most ready to come in early and take over for Darnold this season and I think he will be good at it to.

But if no one is worth staying at 6 then no one is worth trading up for 6, no?

I hope this is true!!! It means they stay put and go for 2 instead of 1. The 1 being who I want ofc. lol

I agree with you on Pickett. I just hope they aren't intending on stealing him from us. I honestly believe Pickett is going to be great. He has everything he needs to be successful. I've heard he also has the "fire in the belly" like Burrow has. Which I think means he has the Moxy to be a QB in the NFL.

It's page 4 already so obviously people want to talk about it. I'm just happy to talk about most anything that doesn't involve hating some part of the Panthers. Those posts always come in but at least it's not the topic.

I like Robbie. He's passionate and honest. He articulates himself in a strange but funny way. I've never heard anyone else talk the way he does. I also believe he's better than last season and I expect him to bounce back this season under the new staff.

3rd time's a charm definitely sounds like he's being traded.

He is built more like a QB than an RB and he is faster and a better passer and yet he still was a big mistake at 3 as he still isn't necessarily considered ready to be their starter. They chose an injured Jimmy G to play in the PO instead. In this draft, they could stay with those picks and get a QB and likely a WR or LT. They could likely get Raiman or Penning and Corral or Howell with those picks. No. They aren't. I'd be shocked if Willis goes before 20. I like vegans. They taste good. 3 first round picks with guaranteed salaries could be difficult to manage financially. Better to have 2 + 2. That would also leave them the possibility of trading up next season if they choose.

If we don't draft Pickett then I won't be mad if we get an LT. We need one or the other. If we do go LT then I wonder if we would try to make a deal for Baker? This is interesting. These players should be players unavailable in the 4th round. It implies the possibility of a trade down.

Just close your ears. The media is manipulating your vision.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Except that I think Pickett is the QB of the draft. If the Saints think that too and are willing to make those moves to get him then maybe I'm not wrong.

= high upside

Rivera must be hating all of this. They brought him in to clean up their image but he can't do that with all this other poo happening all the time. When is the NFL going to take that team away from that idiot?

"but his ceiling isn't very high"

Unless it works of course. Highest ceiling is used to elevate players who didn't play as well as someone else.

Good catch. I like what you did there.