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Need more of a power rusher to combine with opposite of that in Burns. Can flip them around at times and make the OT's have to deal with speed on one play and power on the next.

Totally forgot that these were in a different folder of images, absolutely should have been in my initial post of favorite cards. The first few years of this Game of Inches set I put the base version together (then after a few years it got cost prohibitive and I stopped, not even sure if they still make it). But would also pick up some of the 1/1 versions if I could too, have a Devonta Freeman, Donte Moncrief, and Tevin Coleman 1/1's, but then I also was able to snag the 1/1 versions of these guys, not sure if you've heard of them or not.................

haha yea the two of us did not like each other very much But I don't think it was due to us having any issue with the other person as much as we both kept screwing each other over and creating a false Stewart market and drove up prices on each of us like crazy.

Ahhh, I remember that Luke PC Not sure the other part was about me though as nothing there rings a bell to me. Maybe I've just forgotten though lol But now that I think about it, I do feel like I remember the Biakabutuka's didn't come to me in a normal way, that someone put me in contact with the guy. So maybe you did that, but don't think it was because I had beef with someone on eBay, but who knows.

Only gonna add in a select handful of favorites to not overload the thread lol Biakabutuka Flair Showcase Masterpiece 1/1... basically the holy grail of PC cards for me regardless of value, don't even remember how or where I stumbled across a guy with a bunch of Biakabutuka 1/1's years back. Was able to get this one and a couple of others off of him in a deal. Gotta include the Biakabutuka Green PMG /15 here too since PMGs are all the rave these days, also have the Red /150 as well of course These 2011 Crown Silhouettes are still maybe my favorite set ever made, hit this one myself, and then actually hit a second one later as well. Hit a few good Cam rookie autos myself, that was the year I had just got back into collecting too, including a really nice Gold Standard Patch/Auto The auto'd Stewart was /5 and I have 3 of the 5 of them, easily one of my favorite cards in my whole PC Have I think close to 40 Stew 1/1's so will only put one in here and I always LOVED the prizm finites so will go with this one (also have the non auto and the orange pylon parallel 1/1's from that year). Have a few good rookie 1/1's too, including the Exquisite auto and Limited Shield/Auto Gotta have a TD Rookie 1/1 in here, right? Can't put a TD 1/1 in here without putting his partner in crime as well, this is a Chrome Mini Superfractor 1/1 People are gonna poopoo on me for including a Funchess 1/1 here, but this one holds special meaning. He went to my rival high school (albeit years after me) and is by far the best player to come out of my hometown in any sport, and then got drafted by my team. So pretty cool for me to pickup the Michigan Flag 1/1 auto of his, closest thing I'll ever get to a hometown card of his. I also got to meet him after his rookie year and got a picture with him, then got it signed a year or two later and inscribed about being from our hometown to Carolina. A couple Quad team autos And of course can't finish this post off without a 1/1 from the GOAT.......

Wow that's a nice Burns PC right there I haven't bought any Panthers cards in years, shifted from collecting sports cards to Star Wars cards maybe 4 or 5 years ago and then have since shifted to Marvel cards now, mostly Sketches. Let me go pull down some pictures of a few of my favorite Panther cards though and I'll post them here. I have the best Lotulelei collection in the world, have every non 1/1 made of his and then almost all the non plate 1/1's as well, including the two best, the Chrome and NT RC 1/1's. My J-Stew collection is pretty nasty too, at one point it might have been the best Stew PC around, but been out of the game so long, who knows now lol.

Sure as hell not coffee with mayo in it

The problem with your worst case scenario is that it then severely hampers our rookie QB's ability to develop in year 1 if his best WRs are Thielen and TMJ. That's really why I'm not a fan of this move, too much of an injury history to trust him and we don't have a good enough WR room to withstand him missing half the season. I wasn't looking at the WR moves this year in terms of them, but in terms of what they can/can't do for a rookie QB. I absolutely LOVE the Thielen signing as I think he's the perfect safety valve for a rookie with his game, but I just struggle to see how this one helps us too much, especially if he can't stay on the field. Absolutely need to still draft a WR in the 2nd, this signing doesn't change that in the slightest for me.

So you want him to eventually get to where guys like Brees and Wilson were at when they were rookies, and you think that's going to be big enough for him to hold up physically for a 12-15 year career?!?!?! NO CHANCE And that's my point, his frame is so small, he doesn't have wide shoulders or hips to where he could easily add enough weight that he just fills out his frame, like those other guys did. He has a slim frame, you can only add so much "good weight" to a frame like that, and I don't think it will be enough for the long term. I don't want to draft a QB for the next 5 years, I want to draft one for the next 15 years.

Not a big fan of the signing myself, mainly because he can't stay healthy and it still doesn't give us a #1 WR for the rookie, would have preferred to overpay in a trade for Hopkins, Sutton, or Jeudy to be honest. Also not thrilled at it being just 1 year unless it's super cheap at say like $3 million for the year, have a feeling it's going to be in the 6-7 range. Would have rather done it for 2 with whatever we gave him being the guaranteed money so the cap hit could be split up. But really, I just don't like the idea of giving the rookie a bunch of 2's and 3's at best as his WR room and I think this signing eliminates us from trying to trade for any of those #1's out there. 100% still need to use the 2nd rounder on a WR though, someone who could have breakout potential and to grow alongside the rookie QB for years to come.

Might be hard to tell under all that baggy clothing, but he came in at 6' and 213 lbs at the combine, which likely was his playing weight at the time and I think we all agree, Young isn't playing at his combine weight and is 2" shorter on top of the 9 lbs difference there and likely 20ish lbs actual difference. That's why I go back to the frame, he's just small and I don't like banking our future on him being one of the 4 or 5 successful sub 6 foot QB's in NFL history, when he's both the shortest and also the smallest framed/weighted of all of them as well. Essentially if Young kept getting a little thicker over the years like they did, he might reach the weight those guys were at coming into the league, that's not insignificant.

At 5'10" it makes a hell of a lot more difference than when you're 6'4" if you're built well or if you have a thin frame. Significant difference Plus, that "dad bod" is also one of the best ever in terms of keeping his body in top shape. It's not about how you look, it's about if you have the build to withstand the hits at the NFL level, and not on a game to game or even season to season basis, but for the length of a career you want your #1 pick to have.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how you can compare these two size wise, Russ is much more built to last in the NFL than Young is, by miles. Wilson at the Combine Bryce Young at his Pro Day

So if Young is on a different level compared to Stroud mentally. What would you consider Stroud's level compared to Young's in size? Stroud is great mentally but you say Young is on a different level. Young is the furthest thing from having great size, Stroud's comparison there would be like comparing Brady's career to Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell's

You're stuck on "weight" and "frame" being the same thing, they're not Adding weight doesn't give you a stockier frame, it just makes you heavier. Two different things, and Young has a VERY small frame. Kyler is almost the same size as Young, but just look at them, one is thick, one isn't. That's the difference in Frame vs the difference in Weight.

Mahomes isn't as good at reading the defense as say a Drew Brees is, but I'd rather have Mahomes as my QB. You're talking about Stroud as if he's Levis, someone who has questionable decision making in college, but he's not, he's Elite in that area, Stroud is just Elite +1 in the same area.

No it's not, he can add weight, but he can only add so much because he just has a very slim frame to him. You put too much weight onto that frame and it will affect other aspects of his game. You can coach up Stroud's mental side of the game, which is where Young is elite. And as I've said numerous times, we're not talking about a dummy back there who can't read defenses and has a poor mental side to their game (I see you Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Kyler Murray, etc). Stroud is already very good at that, just not quite to the same level as Young. I think that can be coached up with the right coaches more easily than you can get Young to bulk up enough to protect him from injury.

I agree with this except "will" needs to be changed to "could" and it's more accurate, neither are a slam dunk by any means. Which is why I lean Stroud No, he's no guarantee to stay healthier, longer, but his size gives him a better possibility of that happening. Size isn't the end factor in it all, just part of the equation just like every other aspect that goes into evaluating the two. I have them basically about even if you remove the size factor, once you add that onto the scales, they tip in favor of Stroud for me. Again, if it was between Young and either Levis or AR, then that size factor is outweighed on the scales by the rest of what makes Young great in comparison to the other two.

Yep, that's my concern, the difference is Russ is a tad taller, but a significantly stockier build to his frame, which is my concern with Young, not his height.

I just hope he isn’t projecting Seattle Russ onto Young and that being why he likes him so much

Two questions... do you know what "in a vacuum" means and you realize the outcome of something doesn't mean something else was a bad decision, right? Trading a conditional 5th round pick for a QB just a year removed from carrying the freaking Browns to the playoffs, is 100% a smart decision, no matter how it ended up, it was the correct call and risk to make at the time. The Darnold trade was more questionable, but still the correct and smart decision at the time. Sure, in the end it sucked to lose the 2nd rounder we gave up, but the 4th and 6th rounders in the deal are closer to throwaways than real losses. And in the situation we were in at QB, a 2nd round pick for someone who still had legit starting potential at the time, was again, absolutely a smart risk to take. No, they didn't work out in the end and the two trades stacked on top of each other do compound each decision individually to make it worse, but that's why "in a vacuum" they were the correct and smart decisions at the time. Was drafting Ryan Leaf the smart decision for the Chargers at the time? Of course it was Was it a good decision that worked out when looking back? Of course it wasn't Doesn't mean it wasn't the smart decision at the time.

Uh...... show me one place where I said they should be considering Levis or AR? I just said they should be meeting with them and doing their homework on them because it's their job to do so. I'm not saying go and do the research on Hooker anymore, that ship sailed when we traded up to #1. And yes, while it's 100% going to be either Stroud or Young, the future of this franchise rides on this decision, to not do your due diligence just as a backup and to be safe, then you're really not doing your job. What happens if the Colts get desperate, offer us #4, #35, their next 3 years of 1sts, and Pittman on top? I've long said trading back shouldn't even be in the discussion, you take your top ranked guy and call it a day. But if they got stupid and offered that to us, I'm absolutely taking that offer, hoping whichever QB falls to #4 works out, and if not, between our picks and the Colts picks, we'd be able to move up as needed in the next few years to get someone else while still having picks/players to spare.

Oh, and to the point about the past decisions being mis-evaluations, I'm not even 100% sure I agree with that sentiment either. I think they were calculated risks that didn't work out, partially due to a terrible coaching staff and the cumulative nature of their bad decisions over the years in building out a full team. In a vacuum, both QB trades were smart decisions in my mind, took chances on guys who still had every chance at being successful NFL QB's and didn't have to give up anything too significant to give it a shot. If either of those QB's worked out, we'd have looked like geniuses for getting them for the value we gave up to get them. The problem was just that neither worked out so on top of each other they compounded into a bigger issue. Think about it, Baker was let go and immediately signed to start for the Rams the rest of the year and is now looking to be the starter in TB this year. Darnold was signed by one of the most well respected coaches in the game right now, do you think he does that if he thinks Darnold is utter garbage? Obviously I'm 1000% for moving on from them, but with the right staff and team in place, I don't think either player would have played as bad as they did for us.

No, no we shouldn't have drafted Fields. I'm also still very much of the opinion that the Bears should have traded Fields instead of the draft pick. He's a great running QB, but he's a worse passer than Lamar or Cam. Teams eventually figure out how to defend those running QB's, especially as they get older and bodies start to breakdown a little bit and are forced to run less and pass from the pocket more. Fields is never going to be an elite QB, taking a possible shut down corner was WAY smarter. The only debate is if we should have taken Surtain over Horn, but I'm still good with Horn.

Those last 2 bullet points are about as scary as possible. In what world should an assistant coach have more sway in the room than the HC? And just because the moron you hired before Reich was a bubbling bafoon, it doesn't mean you should step in as a non football person to make the football decision. You hired Reich, you let him and your GM make the decision together. You allow everyone else to provide their input and say for them to consider, but you just hired Reich to be the guy, you have to let him choose the QB or else why did you hire him? If Reich wanted to take Levis over Young, okay, maybe then I'm stepping in as the owner and putting my foot down (at least after giving up what we did to move up to #1). But not if they're debating between the two players that are almost universally viewed as the 1-2 at the top.