tukafan21

Crazy, the Lions moved down from 130 to 230, 100 full picks, just so they could move up 3 picks here?!?!?! They must REALLY want whoever they're taking

I want defense, but the top Center in the draft is still there, if we can possibly solidify our Center position for the next decade with this pick, that is going to be hard to pass on if he's still there, even with how bad we need defense. I'm not even saying it's what I want to see happen (hell, he could still get taken before us), but I'm having a hard time dismissing it out of hand for a crap shoot defensive selection.

Or they do and realize not a single team between here and where they traded back are going to take a QB and they're betting nobody is going to trade up for him before then. If that's the case, then they just picked up a free Top 100 pick and will still take their guy that would have just taken with this pick.

That knee really must be WAY worse than any of the experts/analysts were aware of but every team is clued in. There's just no explanation for him to still be falling unless they all know something nobody else does, as if there was even one team not that concerned, wouldn't SOMEONE have traded up to get him by now? Not saying he won't go soon because someone hopes the value works out, but those medicals must have been really bad.

lol I can't lie, I've thought a lot about him in the last 24 hours with us taking T-Mac and Shedeur falling like a rock

So I know we all want defense because we need it. But I just noticed that the top ranked Center is still on the board, if he somehow falls all the way to us, that has to be a real consideration, right?

Love how some of our fans were upset at taking T-Mac because we just took a WR in the 1st last year. Then the Bears who already have DJ, take a WR in the Top 10 last year, and still go back to the well one more time here early in the 2nd.

They also got a 5th back that is only I think about 15 picks after the 4th they gave up. So really they gave up a Comp 3rd and then moved back 15 picks from the late 4th to early 5th, so not all that bad for a player they really wanted.

Really hope Shedeur goes to the Raiders, because putting him in Las Vegas is just bound to end up being a problem, just let everyone sit back with some popcorn and wait for the fireworks.

Well to be fair, we didn't have a 1st last year so he wouldn't have picked anyone for us last year because of it, don't think that really counts.

Oh an AJ Green comp you say? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I feel like I remember seeing someone using that comp around here the last year and a half

Live look in on me watching the rest of the draft..........

I set the pins up by willing the possibility into existence, they bowled the strike, I can live with that, works for me lol

Nah, I just heard about the best moment from last night and it's something nobody will ever see. The mother of the Steelers pick was in the hospital on life support and he was able to get to the hospital last night to tell her he was drafted before she passed away shortly after. Him getting to tell his mother that he was a 1st round pick was the best moment from last night in regards to the draft, no question about it. I can't imagine what that family is going through, just unimaginable to have the high's and low's of all that in one night, just awful.

fug Dan, I'm taking the credit on this one, I've spent the last 18 months speaking this into existence, you're welcome Panthers nation, hahaha

Yup........... Drafting Tetairoa McMillan LOL

I get it, and while I know we've been stuck in a perpetual re-build for years now and fans and ownership wants results, I think Tepper has finally realized that we really were at rock bottom after 2023 and despite the record and defense, we did show a lot of improvement last year as a franchise, particularly the culture. If we continue to improve there, I think it will appease Tepper enough to give them a 3rd year, and at that point, it's put up or shut up. Also, it comes down to if we're still losing, why. Because if Bryce just reverts back to his rookie year form, then I can also see Tepper realizing that it's not necessarily D&D's fault, but Fitt, Reich and crew who put them there. Whether it will save D&D's jobs who knows, but it does add a wrinkle to the situation.

Well I'm not sure the players and coaching can improve while doing worse, so yea, if we win less games, that's a bad sign. But we very well could only improve to 6 or 7 wins, nothing major, but show significantly more improvement when looking at the tape itself. So it depends on how you look at it. Only improving by 1 or 2 wins might not be enough to satisfy the fan base's desire to get better, but fans are dumb and only look at things in the moment for the most part. But I can absolutely see a situation where Tepper is pleased with Dan and Dave if the team shows improvement and a better overall culture. It's still only year 2 for them and this thing was never going to be fixed overnight. Which is why I'm more concerned about actual improvement on the field over improvement in the win column this next season.

This might sound bad/wrong/weird, but I don't really care about our win total this year. We're not contending for a SB this year, so I'm less concerned about actually winning games as much as I am concerned about just seeing our players and staff improve year over year. You can get better without actually winning games, it's why so many teams can go from having Top 10 picks for a handful of straight years and then jump right into contending in a year span. I've long said we need to look at the Lions the last 3-5 years. They were terrible, then they started getting the right pieces and while they weren't actually winning games, they were changing their culture and their players were getting better. They then went from just missing out of the playoffs to being in the conference championship game the next season and then earned the 1 seed the season after that. Yes, I want to win games, but this year is still a building year, not a contending year. So improvement even if the wins themselves don't come and it will be a successful season and could set us up for a really good 2026 with the right moves again next offseason to supplement the quality moves we've made the last couple offseasons.

And in the past few years all those teams have heavily invested on the offensive side of the ball as the best offensive players hit free agency far less than defensive guys. So you build up that offense, get your studs to put points on the board, and then shift to the defense. Bijan, London, Penix, Pitts in Atlanta. Lamar, Flowers, and some OL for the Ravens. Hurts and Smith for the Eagles (and basically Brown too since they traded their 1st for him).

You know when I won't be happy about this pick? When it completely ruins my fantasy draft this year, hahahahaha. We do an auction draft and while I have the most historical success in our league (same group of guys for about 15 years now), my one flaw is that I have a real hard time not overpaying for the guys I have a soft spot for and our league has gotten good at getting me to over bid on them to get them. I'm so screwed this year, I'm going to have to put a very hard cap on my budget for T-Mac and not allow myself to bid a dollar over it. I've already made the determination that he's going to be the first player I nominate this year so I can get it out of the way early and don't sit on budget waiting for him only to over pay or not get him in the end.

I wouldn't hate if we took a quick twitch speedster in the 4th, but when you look at the WR room right now with T-Mac, XL, and Coker all in their first 2 years, even with Thielen there, I'd rather pick up a vet FA for that role than another rookie, just to get some more experience in the room. Then once we lose Theilen, unless we hit it right on the FA signing for that speedster role, maybe we look at using like a 3rd rounder next year to fill the role, but that's a problem for next offseason hopefully.

LOL After all the poo I've taken on here the last year with discussion about him, you're damn right I'm going to cook up a freaking storm right now. Despite all the words I've said since the pick was made, I'm still at a loss of words to accurately describe my feelings, it's still very surreal to me that T-Mac is a Panther, I feel like the NFL might still be able to step in and take him away from me, I mean us (LOLOL), somehow.

That I actually wouldn't be upset about. I'm still a little upset that I waited a year to get my Cam authentic jersey, as his rookie year was his only one with the original logo and kinda wish I had that one from Cam's rookie year. So as long as he wears the number/jersey as a rookie, I want that rookie jersey. If he gets a new number or we get new uniforms 2026, then I'll just get another, but at least I'll always have that rookie year one in my closet.