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I'd bet good money that Aiyuk isn't on the 49ers next year No, they don't/won't want to move him, but they just can't afford to re-sign him, they have too many huge contracts that they won't be able to afford a second big WR contract. He's widely been discussed as a trade target for WR needy teams this offseason because of that. So unless they decide they don't need both CMC and Deebo and want to trade Deebo instead (as I do think there is some overlap there between them and maybe Aiyuk/CMC is a better combo for varying skill set), I 100% believe Aiyuk will be traded before next season.

Unless they cut Lockett and we can get him on a severe discount, I have no interest in Lockett. He'll turn 32 early into next season where DK just turned 26 in December. I think JSN was drafted to replace DK long term so they don't need to give him another big deal, as they'd need to do that next offseason. Tag and trade Burns for DK and then give him a new 4 year contract extension And if we can't/won't do this, I still think we need to try and find a way to trade for Aiyuk, although that could be more difficult as I think the 49ers are going to want draft picks in return, not someone they have to give a big contract to, as that's why they'll need to trade Aiyuk anyways, too many big contracts on their books and won't be able to afford to re-sign him long term.

I don't think Seattle wants to give DK another big contract next offseason, have to think he has some sort of relationship with Canales. I'd look into a trade of Burns for DK if I were Morgan (assuming him and Canales have a good relationship of course)

Vrabel can be for us, what Dan Campbell was supposed to be for the Lions. It's worked out far better than they ever imagined with Campbell, but in reality, the fans didn't expect him to be their longtime HC when he was hired. He was essentially brought in to change the culture in the franchise, set them on the right path for once, and then they'd find their hopeful longterm solution at some point in the future. Sure, would be nice if we could find that long term guy right now, but we need to flip this franchise around from the ground up, and a guy like Vrabel knows what well run franchises look like and would get the players to buy in.

Or... any good candidates left decide to pull a Ben Johnson from last year and just hold firm and look to next offseason to take a HC job Which is a legitimate fear of mine with Johnson himself. If/when they lose to the 49ers this weekend, unless he's utterly enamored with the thought of either having the #2 pick with Washington or coming home to Carolina, I could see him going back to try and get the Lions over the hump and to a SB. He bet on himself this year and did absolutely nothing to hurt his HC chances, really only made himself look better, and at his age, he doesn't need to just take an HC job when it's offered because it won't be there again.

And if that happens, I'll happily "settle" for Vrabel (although him going to Seattle also just makes sense, feels like the right culture fit there)

Great news for the Panthers This significantly increases our chances at landing Ben Johnson now, I always figured he'd have gone to the Chargers to have Herbert.

I want Ben Johnson as I want an offensive minded guy so we don't have issues when the person who runs the offense might leave for an HC job. But if we can't get him, Vrabel is probably my choice, dude is a great coach and I'm still shocked the Titans let him go

Trade Burns for picks, re-sign Luvu, extend Brown, try to get Horn to sign something like a 2 year extension at a reasonable number to see if he can stay healthy and play at a high level (it would be beneficial to both sides as playing out the season carries risk for both parties pending his ability to stay healthy).

Not sure how many of these teams will make any hire while the Lions are still alive and keeping Ben Johnson from taking any job yet.

Well for one, I know players don't enjoy playing up on completely torn up fields like we used to have late in the season because of non NFL use. And I'm not so sure stadiums make enough on their 8 NFL game days a season to be profitable, it costs a lot of money to run a stadium of that size. Sure, if you just look at how much money an NFL team makes, they're not losing money, but I'm sure if you looked at the profits/loss statement for solely stadium operations and game day profits, there's no way they're profitable without using the stadium for other things the other 350+ days out of the year.

Shanahan, McDaniel, Harbaugh, Tomlin, McVay Reid if disregarding longevity of the rest of their career

You would "settle" for Vrabel? He might be my #1 choice, the guy can coach. Only one that I think I'd rank above him of likely candidates would be Ben Johnson, and only coach I'd absolutely rank over him would be Tomlin if the Steelers are stupid and decide to not sign him long term and decide to mutually part ways (which I can't see happening anyways).

Long term, the offensive savant Right now, the leader of men Dan Campbell was never meant to be the Lions long term solution. I live in Michigan and all my Lions friends loved the hire but admitted that he likely would only be there for a few years, they viewed him as someone to come in and just right the ship for a franchise lost at sea and get it moving in the right direction for the next and hopefully long term coach. Turns out that he's done even better than that, but it's what we need right now. We just need to get a culture in the locker room and get this franchise moving in the right direction. And since I don't think Bryce is the long term solution either, I'm less concerned about fixing him than I am just getting a sense of normalcy and fight back in the locker room.

So not reading through this whole thread and hadn't heard this before, but this just doesn't even make sense to me. How can they brag about having award winning talent when the only "evidence" of them winning the award is the fake physical award they gave to the people? These awards are listed online somewhere, it wouldn't be hard for anyone, including the on air talent who they gave the trophies to, to look it up and see they didn't actually win. Or am I missing something obvious?

We have no HC or GM No poo you’re not their top priority right now This is my final straw, I don’t want him back, must tag and trade for anything anyone will give us at this point.

I was just thinking that this could be what makes them push BB out the door. They can hire Vrabel and then draft a new QB and be set for a while

Wow, surprised they fired Vrabel, he’s a good coach, not exactly who I want as I’d like an offensive guy, but I wouldn’t be against giving him a look. At worst he’d develop a good culture in the building and right the ship a bit

Honestly, after hearing that, I want nothing to do with re-signing him now, tag and trade him for whatever we can get and move on. If he was that afraid of playing hurt, he should have either held out or signed the extension, it says a lot about him and I'm sure it affected his play, which wasn't great. If he wants to sign for LESS than $20 a season, then sure, I'll take him back. But if he wants a penny over 20, I have zero interest after hearing this, we need the draft picks and cheap contracts more right now, this team is in an entire rebuild.

Honestly…. We’d probably be better off if he gets even worse and gets us the #1 pick in 2025 to draft his replacement. if he slightly improves and we get better coaching, we’re going to end up in NFL purgatory again. Constantly drafting too late to get an elite QB but never actually contending for the post season.

He'd be my #1 option over any of the names who will actually be available The guy hasn't had a losing season in his almost 2 decade career, that's insane. Absolute worst case scenario, he'd turn the franchise around and establish a culture that we badly need

Really strange that Ben Johnson isn't included in this list when he's probably the hottest name on the HC market, wonder why that is

Was really hoping Smitty would be a finalist this year, but not get in while a couple of the other WRs did. Because that would have then set up the potential to have both Smitty and Luke go into the HOF together next season, which would have been really cool. But can't see a scenario where he goes from not being a finalist to making it in the following year, he'll need a year or two of being a finalist before finally getting the call I'd imagine.

He's 100% wrong Now, in most coaching hire situations, he wouldn't be wrong, you want someone who is all in like he describes. But we're not in a normal coaching hire situation, we're in a situation where no high end candidates should/would be interested in our job. He's already proven by turning down HC opportunities last year because he felt he wasn't ready, that he cares more about winning and being a successful HC than just a huge a paycheck. So it's not like he's going to come here for that big pay day and then just mail it in. I want the best HC possible, not the best HC possible amongst the guys who REALLY want to be here, because the ones who REALLY want to be here given our situation, won't be amongst the best HC options out there. So if it takes overpaying someone to be interested, I'm fine with that, as long as it's a Ben Johnson type. Someone young and likely looking at a long HC career. If they're willing to risk that career on coming to this disaster of a situation and bet on Bryce, then I'm okay with them wanting stupid money to take the job, since they're still betting the rest of their career on it.

First, Watson didn’t miss games because of injury, Lamar couldn’t finish the year for 2 straight seasons because he got hurt in both years. Which is a terrible sign for a guy dependent on his running ability to be successful. I still don’t believe Lamar will make it through this contract playing at a high level. Second, you 100% lose out because you have to spend the time negotiating with Lamar, which means you have to keep your cap room open and lose out on other players you could have signed in the meantime. All for a player you were never going to get even if you signed him because the Ravens were always going to match any deal.