tukafan21

T-Mac has Top 5 position potential by his second contract, not going to be many players with that kind of potential in the draft and it’s one of our biggest positions of need. Having an elite WR can change an entire offense and he’s the best in the draft. WRs with his combo of size/speed/hands are near impossible to find, don’t over think it, take the best offensive player in this draft and be happy

Yep, and he's admittedly had some pretty bad statistical games, but anyone who's watched the games can tell you it's not because of him. The offense has been a mess under this new staff and our QB has been pretty bad all year, all that combined with teams double and triple teaming him most plays because we have nobody else who scares anyone, it's limited his chances. Even having said all that, he's still at 982 yards thru 8 games this year, but stats in his favor or against him aside, he's going to be a Top 10 pick at worst, very possible Top 5, and he'll be the first WR off the board, I'd bet my bottom dollar on that. Given it being such a position of need for us, he's my pick no matter what, although if we did end up #1 and could trade down a couple spots and still be sure to get him, I'd of course like to do that to get more assets as well.

T-Mac having himself a game, 10 rec, 202 yards, 1 TD, with a few highlight reel plays and should have just had a TD pass as well on a crazy play but our QB dropped the ball when he would have walked backwards into the end zone (would have been his 2nd impressive pass of the day as they ran a flea flicker earlier that he ran all over before making a solid pass). He's the pick, I don't care if we're at #1, he should be the pick, he's going to be a STUD in this league for the next decade plus. It's a hole we haven't been able to fill since Smitty, it will help whoever our future QB is, he's just flat out the pick.

He turns 29 this offseason, he has 2-3 years left in him and he's never really been an elite WR outside of the few times a season he flashes the potential. At some point you hav to accept what he is, someone with talent who isn't a #1 on a contending team and is probably a 3rd receiving option on that type of team. There's no reason to give him the $20+ million a year it would take for us to re-sign him with where we are at as a franchise. As I've said a million times, draft T-Mac with our First round pick instead, get a better WR on a rookie contract and 8 years younger with the potential to be a Top 5 WR in the league. So if we're not going to re-sign him (like we shouldn't), then there really is no reason to not trade him for whatever we can get as there are some WR needy teams who think they can still contend this year. I'd also trade Thielen for the same reason, think we could actually get more from the right team for him as him in the slot could be more helpful to teams than Johnson on the outside.

This is a bad idea, when he bombs out there, it's going to ruin any potential trade value he still had.

Sure that's a fair argument as well, but once it was clear the team had quit on him and we didn't have a good roster in place to begin with, the smart thing would be to just embrace the suck for one season and use it to kickstart the re-build with the #1 draft pick without needing to make a stupid trade to get there. Of all the dumb decisions this franchise has made over the last couple years, that trade was by far the worst of them as we were already a roster without a lot of talent and we traded away our best offensive weapon and multiple high draft picks in a bad QB draft, just dumb and compounded a multitude of other issues.

It was firing Rhule mid-season, I was infuriated when he did it and it was the first domino that lead to us being here right now. We weren't going to win games with him as the HC and Tepper knew it so he made the move, but it was cutting off his nose to spite his face. If we kept Rhule all season, we end up with the #1 pick of the draft all on our own, which means even if we still took Bryce, we still would have kept DJ and all those draft picks. If we still take Bryce, he's still awful and we end up replacing him with the QB heavy draft from this past season since we would have still had our 2025 1st. If we went a different way and took Stroud, pairing him with DJ and whoever else we built the WR room around (which likely would have included Tank Dell, as remember, Stroud went to the Texans after they took him and asked them to draft Dell as they had built up a great chemistry working out together before the draft).

Oh I absolutely buy the rumors as they've been handing out huge contracts lately and haven't won the SB yet on their QB's rookie deal and are somehow even worse this year (yes I know injuries play a factor). Being great at evaluating talent only gets you so far, if you don't win the SB and are saddling yourself with serious cap issues in the very near future, it's not going to help a GM keep his job. I think Lynch is in far more danger of being fired than Shanahan because of those contracts, far too much smoke about ownership being unhappy about the Williams and Aiyuk contracts for there to be no fire.

Except there have been lots of reports that it's a SB or bust season for Lynch as ownership hasn't been happy with the contracts he's given out because of what it's going to do to their cap situation in the next few years. If they aren't at worst in the NFC Championship game again, he's 100% getting fired and there have been rumors that Shanahan, for as great as he's been, will end up being tied to Lynch's fate. They have to make panic moves right now or it's going to cost them their jobs. I'd be shocked if they don't trade for a WR before the deadline, whether it's one of our guys or someone like a Mike Williams who is clearly available, who knows, but they'll get someone.

This is their year to try and win the SB, they're going to have to pay Purdy after this season, who knows what CMC's future will be (assuming he can get back this year for the playoff run), and their overall cap situation is going to get ugly soon. Trying to replace Aiyuk with Jennings and Pearsall and thinking that's good enough to help turn around a struggling team in their final year of their best SB window would be criminal.

If we're not on the phone with the 49ers about Deontae and/or Thielen than we're doing something wrong. Both of them would be great players in that offense and they now have a huge whole at WR after losing Aiyuk.

No high end HC candidate was ever going to seriously consider us, we were always only going to be looking at re-tread HC's who no other team would give another shot to or the young guys who weren't ready for it yet and saw it as their chance to jump the line Most of the pieces on this team were bad coming into the season and there's been a ton of injuries on top, I don't really blame Canales much. At worst he's going to set up a better culture in the locker room with his up beat attitude and it will get it in a better place for the next HC after Canales is dumped following next season. That's another reason I'm against drafting a QB this year, we can't fire Canales after 1 year (as NOBODY would want that job). Give him year 2 with a gap starter or young current backup (my vote is Hooker from the Lions) to see if he can do anything, if not we get a new HC with a Top 10 pick to choose his own QB.

I still think we should try and see if the Lions will trade Hendon Hooker With his and Goff's age, they don't need him as Goff is clearly their QB for the foreseeable future right now and I thought he had a ton of potential, if he didn't blow out his knee at the end of his season, he probably would have gone in the 1st round. Take T-Mac with our first pick to pair him with Legette and give Hooker the starting job the entire season. Either we find a diamond in the rough and he can be our QB moving forward or he's going to be bad enough that we get a Top 10 pick in a QB loaded draft with a true outside #1 going into their 2nd season and hopefully one of the better #2 WRs in the league for said rookie to have as his weapons. T-Mac, Legette, Brooks, Sanders has the potential to be a dangerous set of young weapons for any QB to step into

is he a QB? no? so yes, obviously i'm on board with that pick then do you even read my posts or do you see it's me and just want to talk about whatever you want to talk about?

Drafting a QB in a bad QB draft just because you need one is exactly how you get stuck in NFL purgatory This team isn't a QB away from competing, there is no circumstance that we should be drafting a QB in the first round this year, I would legitimately trade completely out of the first round this year than take a QB in the round with the prospects at the position this year

yea i don't really care, his struggles have nothing to do with him or his NFL prospects Will still be the first WR off the board and a Top 5 WR type of guy by his 2nd contract. He can't pass block to give his QB more time and he can't throw himself the ball so he gets catchable passes. And while yes, we could just throw him a bunch of 5 yard routes to force him catches, but that's not really using him to his abilities. He can't do anything about our QB not being able to have the time to let him run his routes, this team is in shambles, partially injuries, partially coaching, partially our QB play, but he's still going to be a Top 5 draft pick.

I've literally accepted the bet but you don't want to actually make it because deep down you know I'm right. If Hunter enters as a WR, T-Mac will get drafted ahead of him. 100%. If he enters as a DB there is not bet to make because NFL teams draft based on need, it's not the NBA where need isn't as big of a deal at the top of the draft.

Thank you for a post that clearly shows your lack of separation of NCAA impact and NFL prospects. You literally mention Hunter playing both ways and comparing T-Mac to Hunter in the same sentence. Hunter's two way play has NOTHING to do with his draft status or how NFL teams will evaluate him for the next level, as it's not something he's doing outside of gadget plays on offense (assuming he goes in as a DB)

welp, Hunter's day is done

2 for 17 vs 2 for 15, but sure, that's having more of an impact... I guess Taking a victory lap over T-Mac not having a big game with how our OL and QB have played is basically the equivalent of doing the same thing for any of our WRs the first two games of our season this year with how Bryce was playing.

Sure, and it’s more fair to say now as it’s almost halftime than after one quarter when you said it, but you also insinuated it was because he was getting shutdown, which he’s not. The team is a mess, we’ve had one drive this quarter over 3 plays, it’s not because he’s getting locked down, we just can’t even get him targets with the OL playing like Swiss cheese right now.

What does any of that have anything to do with “T-Mac has done so far” like you said?!?! I’ve also been saying for weeks how horrible our QB and rest of the team has been playing, part of it is he has no time with how the OL has played.

Who is this Tetairoa McMillan you speak of? Never heard of him

Only you can say a WR has done nothing after 1 quarter, when their team has had the ball twice and only thrown the ball 6 times so far

Shut down? we’ve had two drives, a 3 and out and a TD, he’s had two targets, one he caught for a first down and the other was well over his head and stop what? Hunter is banged up, it’s perfectly reasonable to wonder if they won’t put him on T-Mac for that exact reason… any CB who isn’t fully healthy could get cooked by T-Mac, it’s not even a hunter tuing