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Yeah I never understood why there was 1st round talk around him (and explains why he fell out of the 1st). He was so physically limited and really all he did was throw the ball to 2 baller receivers in Floyd and Tate. The guy had the lowest of low ceilings. I don't think it was ever an issue of him not working hard or him not understanding the game. He was just baaaaaaaaad and skittish. Mac Jones if he works out will at least be a solid starting QB.

I actually agree, the more I watch Jones, the more I'm impressed by his pocket movement and awareness. However the issue I have is you just didn't see him do it a lot when the pocket was collapsing as fast as it will in the NFL, even behind a good OL. So you are projecting a bit on if his internal clock will remain as good. I think he'd be a good pick for the Saints. They have a great OL and if Jones has to play early, he'll need it. Honestly the more I watch the more I get what people see in him. But I still think his path to success is just a lot narrower than other guys, and that is what I have a big problem with about him.

I'd prefer Wilson, but would definitely be cool with trading up for Justin Fields. I think he's going to be a playmaker from Day 1. He'll have his struggles but really the issues I see are just coaching him up related. Nothing is a guarantee but like I said in another thread, he reminds me so much of Deshaun Watson.

I just hate how boring it was to watch him play. I wouldn't have been as frustrated as I was if it was just bad QB play. We all expected to suck this year anyway. But man Bridgewater really made it hard to watch our games. When it came to throwing the ball he was gutless. Just so conservative and weak-armed. I mean how do you have 4 1,000 YFS players and yet engineer such a low-scoring offense? That is why it infuriates me when people think Brady deserves blame. Absolute BS. Just watch the games. He did such an amazing job putting players in the best position possible (I like Samuel and yes he just needed more opportunities but this was still by far his best year and it was under Brady; same with Anderson and same with Davis, guys had career years here) and got everyone involved as best he could. Bridgewater was just bad. Dude can't play.

Brees can’t scramble but I don’t think I would call him immobile. His pocket movement has always been incredible.

Lol there is so much that is false in here.

Never said he was, but that doesn’t mean he was some extremely gifted QB either. He benefited from a wide-open offensive spread system and Mike Evans. He was a good college playmaker but you are wrong if you think the only thing he was lacking is attitude.

What is funny about it? Or why do you disagree? He had a solid arm and solid running ability for a QB. But he wasn’t gifted enough to be a consistent runner in NFL, and his arm relative to other NFL QBs was nothing special. He was also very undersized. Manziel fell for more reasons than just his attitude. Even if he was a hard worker I don’t think he works out because he wasn’t that good of a prospect.

Manziel was not that physically talented.

LMFAO what lol I literally laughed out loud

Too bad Jeff Otah's knees couldn't hold up. Some people have tried calling him lazy but I don't think you can blame a 330-pound mammoth for not being able to overcome persistent knee problems. Otah in 2008 was an absolute beast though. He was a future All-Pro. On a separate note... could ya'll imagine that 2008 and 2009 offense with a QB other than Jake Delhomme? Good lord. Cam Newton showed up to the Panthers 3-2 years too late. 2008/2009 definitely had to be the last time where you could sit back and say the Panthers fielded a great OL (Gross-Wharton-Kalil-Vincent-Otah... my god). Smith was in his prime. Moose was still very, very good. Hoover was the best blocking FB in the game. Williams, Stewart... man those 2008 and 2009 teams doesn't get talked about enough when it comes to miss opportunities. All we had to do was not commit to washed Jake Delhomme. I mean okay in 2008 I get it, Delhomme played well in '07 before his injury and obviously we didn't know how bad he'd get. But in 2009 we did our team a disservice. That team was so good in 2009 all we needed was a decent QB. Matt Moore would have taken us to the playoffs for sure.

Sure, but servers can't be the only ones who benefit from being tipped. If servers are going to be tipped then the bar (although where I work, we don't tip out the bar but only because they make so much money off of togo) and bussers absolutely deserve to be tipped out too. The job for servers would be 10x more difficult without a buster or two. So I get what you are saying but with the rules the way they are then I think it is absolutely fair for servers to tip out 4% of their sales. I'm not saying that restaurant still isn't shady because most are, but I do think there is a fair explanation for why she had $200 taken out of her check based off the information you have given me. And I do not think it is accurate to say that she worked for free. Assuming 2 bartenders and 1 busser, that $40 tip-out each day is only $13 for each person. And so even if every server in the restaurant is breaking $1000 in sales (and damn that's a productive restaurant if so) and you have 6 servers on the floor, that is $78 for each busser/bartender. Compared to the 180 you as a server made that shift. That is absolutely fair.

Because what you are saying isn't making any sense to me. I don't understand the problem. Every server in any restaurant (or just about, unless the bar/hosts/bussers are making a very good hourly which is unlikely other than for hosts) has or is expected to tip out. It is likely somewhere around 2%-4% for the bussers/runners and bar, and sometimes hosts. If she made $1000 in tips in 5 days, that means she is probably averaging about $1000 in sales each shift (assuming 1 shift a day and assuming she is being tipped about 20%; that comes out to $200 in tips each shift). $5000 in sales * .04 (4% standard tip-out) = $200 tipped out. So no she didn't work for free. She did the standard tip-out that is owed to bussers/hosts. Every restaurant I've worked at does this. Not sure what the problem is. And if that waitress quit because she didn't understand how tip-outs work, then that is on her. And no offense to your wife, how is she a manager and she doesn't understand that tipping out is a standard process? Unless again there are some details that you are leaving out. Is the tip out not going to the bussers or hosts? If not then yes it is absolutely 100% illegal for a restaurant to just take money out of someone's check. But I seriously doubt that is happening. If it is then tell your wife to report it immediately. I think there would be a lot more clarity if they didn't do tips by checks and simply did it at the end of the night w/ cash. Because ultimately that tip out amounts to just about $40 each shift (again assuming 1 shift a day) which is absolutely standard. And if you are working at a restaurant right now where you are able to rake in 180 (on average) after tip-out? I'm not sure why you quit. That is about as good as it is going to get in a restaurant right now with everything that has happened.

Besides, how can someone get mad over something that hasn't actually happened lol

Because if you want him, it is safer to go ahead and trade a 6th or 7th round pick for him as opposed to trying to compete with other teams to sign him in FA. Not saying I want him. Just explaining the rationale behind why you would give up a pick for him, even if you think he's going to get cut. It secures you his services.

As someone who's worked in a restaurant I'm confused by this. Your tip out is based on your sales. Unless a server didn't get tipped on any of their tables, then there is no way they tipped out more than they made, much less to the point where they tipped out $200 and profited $0.

Where is this source that Russell Wilson is disliked in the locker-room? Post it in this thread. And I want something more recent than just that one report from 2017 that was likely leaked by Sherman (or someone in Sherman's circle) considering it was clear he was leaving after that season. Give me anything more recent than that (or even anything that's just other than that) that talks about how Russell Wilson is loathed in the locker-room and/or that it has become a problem for the team. Otherwise I'm just going to assume that Wilson's relations with his teammates are nowhere near as bad as you are making it seem. And that it clearly is nowhere close to Owens' situations.

It is also funny that your standards for success is always "championship or bust". The teams Owens played for almost always made the playoffs. So it wasn't even like Owens stopped his teams from winning either. ALSO funny how you mentioned them his teams not winning a Super Bowl when Owens had one of the all-time greatest WR performances in Super Bowl history. You really think Owens was the reason the Eagles didn't win a Super Bowl in 2004?! You literally have no clue what you are talking about.

Dude, you are insane lol You have no point. You are trying to compare Russell Wilson to Terrell Owens as a reason for not wanting him. That is dumb as hell. Situations aren't even close to the same. And seriously, what the hell is your point? You made it seem like Wilson being a diva would stop a team from winning but all the Seahawks have done under him is win football games. So stop trying to act like you have a point. You just be saying stuff for the sake of it

Honest question. Would you not take Michael Jordan on your team for the same reasons? Because he rubbed teammates the wrong way? Or do you care more about winning?

We have the nicest QB in the league, why aren't we winning more???

But it still isn't nearly as bad as Terrell Owens! Like come on dude. The problem with TO was how public he made everything. All the crap you are saying is just leaks and sources. Sure yeah it may bother them but clearly has never gotten to the point where it's actually truly disrupted the team like the Owens situations. You are just talking BS or you clearly don't remember all that was wrong with Owens and his antics. And again... why the heck as a fan should I care if some of his coworkers are rubbed off by how he's treated? It's called real-life. People get preferential treatment in all phases of life. At the end of the day though, the final results matter the most. Russ has been at minimum very good in every single season he's played and he wins 10+ games damn near every single year. So what you are saying is ridiculous. Russ being a diva clearly hasn't impeded them in any way. Why would it somehow start impeding a new team?

And they will be so random too. Like he'll just draw the most random comparisons to try and prove a point "Hey, ya'll wanna draft Trevor Lawrence?" "I've seen this kind of love for a Clemson QB before. His name was Tajh Boyd, and the team that drafted him regretted it."

Right lol dude is talking nonsense. On top of that, Wilson isn't anywhere close to the locker-room problem that Owens was. Not even close. Like what?

There are so many things wrong with this post lol like what the hell dude?