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  1. Are we suggesting "It is what it is" John Fox was a beacon of accountability? Revisionist history right there.
  2. And again, say you trade him. Are you re-signing Reddick? Why would you re-sign Reddick over keeping Burns for relatively cheap money the next 2 years? And if you can't re-sign him, then you just created a massive hole at DE. Now that makes it even more difficult to advocate taking an OT in the 1st when this is one of the strongest DL drafts in a long, long time. At least at the top. It just makes 0 sense to trade a proven player like Burns at his position. And that's why teams don't do it. You don't get better by creating more holes. Maybe if we had another great DE on the roster, then yeah, trade Burns. But the only other guy is Reddick, who is just as one-dimensional and much, much older. And who will cost more vs keeping Burns for 2 more years (at minimum). You can't trade a guy just because he doesn't check every box. Yeah if Burns is asking for an outrageous contract, like Watt/Garrett money, then of course you move on. But I seriously doubt that will be the case for a myriad of reasons. You can't possibly let this guy go though, especially this offseason when you still have guaranteed seasons left with him. It would be a crazy bad decision.
  3. You build around his flaws. I'm not saying he has to be your best player on defense. So are you saying we should only keep players who check every box? That just isn't reasonable or feasible. There are very few "perfect" players in the NFL. Again, can you name one recent example of a team trading a pass rusher at Burns' skill-level and age? It would be unprecedented, unless Burns asked for the release. There is no reason to trade him. We have the money to pay him. He plays an important position. Trading him because he's not the perfect all-around player would be crazy.
  4. Then build around that. Surround him with larger LBs who can take on blocks. Make sure the other primary edge defender opposite of him isn't also an undersized speed rusher. No player is going to be perfect. Burns is too good of a pass rusher. And again, he's only 23... he has time to get better against the run. You just don't trade a guy like him at his age and with his skill-level. Can you name any recent example of a team trading a DE at Burns' age and his skill-level (unless said player requested trade)? It just doesn't happen. Burns not being an all-around player doesn't mean you get rid of him. It means you take that into consideration when building the rest of your team. Because chances are, the 1st round pick you get back for Burns won't be better than Burns unless its in the top 10. And no team is trading a top 10 pick for Burns.
  5. By trading Brian Burns for a 1st, you make another hole on the defense (unless you re-sign Reddick... and why would you re-sign 27 year old Reddick over 23 year old Burns???). It just doesn't make any sense. You can't trade away every single player on your team that isn't perfect. Ya'll are really undervaluing Brian Burns right now. You 100% do not trade an under-25 year old very good pass rusher for just a 1st. When is the last time a team did something like that?
  6. But why? An edge pass rusher is one of the most important pieces in the NFL. Burns isn't perfect, but he's absolutely one of the best in the NFL at getting after the QB. He's 23 years old. He has so much time in the world to get better seeing as most DEs don't hit their peak until around 26-28. I could understand trading him for players. But you don't trade a productive 23 year old DE for draft picks. You just don't. And I can't think of any team in recent memory that has done it. Jared Allen only got traded because of all his off-the-field issues. And KC continued to suck after, because picks aren't guaranteed.
  7. A final determination? No, but they 100% have a solid evaluation on the players. Obviously how they work out and interview will change some things, but what do you think scouts do throughout the year? They scout players not just in the upcoming draft but in the years to come too. Teams absolutely consider how weak or strong the next year's position group will be in a draft to determine how they should play their cards for the upcoming draft. This is also why you've seen recently a lot of GMs not get fired until June/July.
  8. There is no set standard for being a fan. Let a person be positive if they want to be positive. If you want to be negative, then that is your prerogative, but not everybody has to see it as all doom and gloom like you and others. Just like nobody has to see it as all roses. At the end of the day this is just an online forum. Nothing we say is going to matter or make a difference. So anyone can react however they want to react. A big problem I'm sure some people have though is that there is this expectation that any poster who has any semblance of positivity on this forum is just a "stooge" who is "blind" to what is happening.
  9. If you want to see it that way, then go ahead. I'm merely stating that it is quite possible Tepper feels it is worth keeping Rhule another season to ensure attracting a better candidate next year, when he will have less teams to compete with for a HC's service.
  10. I mean. It might actually make more sense to wait until next year to look for a candidate. People might hate to hear it, but at this rate, the Panthers could potentially be one of very few teams looking for a new HC next year. We could conceivably have our pick of the litter. And no, this is not me defending Rhule. Just me being rational. Very good chance we have a better opportunity to nab a great candidate next year than this year.
  11. Highly unlikely Tepper is putting out "feelers" for other head coaches without it leaking.
  12. Look, I'm not fan of Sam Darnold either. He sucks. But of course the HC and GM are going to express support for him. Why? Because it quite frankly makes the most sense to stick with him in 2022. We made a dumb error of committing $18m to him. None of the QBs are worth drafting where we're picking. So the only way you move on is if you are able to swing a trade for one of the top QBs. But there is no guarantee that is going to happen. So why throw your QB under the bus before you have to? That is what we did with Teddy last year, and it is probably the biggest reason we had to trade him. Otherwise you keep Teddy and never make the horrendous Darnold trade. Right now we need stop doubling down on mistakes. You stick with Darnold unless you can secure Watson or one of the other young elites. And even if you get Watson you're gonna probably need Darnold for 6-10 games next year.
  13. Name a single team where the GM tells the HC what coordinators and position coaches he should hire. Yes they should be communicating constantly about the kinds of players and whatnot they are bringing in. The coach should communicate to the general manager what kind of scheme he plans on running. The GM should communicate to the HC the skillset of a player he really likes and how it can fit within the team. But a HC should have full-control of the coaches he surrounds himself with. I cannot think of many cases where the GM and/or owner makes a HC choose an assistant coach. The only one I can think of, off the top of my head, was the Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett/Wade Phillips situation. Other than that, the head coach picks his staff, on every team. This is why the connections that a head coach has is very important. A HC w/ a lot of connections will in all likelihood get the best assistants. The GM has very little to do with it. Unless, of course, you can provide me with examples of the sorts. I'd accept being wrong. Rhule can ask for advice but Scott has always worked in front office. Sure I'd be willing to bet he's made a fair amount of coaching connections and could do his research, but ultimately Rhule needs to be the one who does a better job picking his staff. Just like all the other HCs. And if he can't do that, then he needs to be fired. ... and I do think he needs to be fired. I'm just explaining why HCs should be the ones who pick their staff. Just like GMs should be the ones who pick their scouts.
  14. I was far from a Teddy fan and think he was mediocre at best but moving on from him for Darnold has to be one of the dumbest decisions this organization has ever made. We should have just stuck with Kyle Allen to begin with and completed the tank.
  15. If you're going to have him running a lot of intermediate routes you need to have an accurate QB. Again something he didn't have. Robby isn't someone you should be expecting to make a lot of catches in traffic is my point. No QB on this roster can throw someone open and our passing scheme was quite elementary. I'm not saying he didn't regress, but to fall off the way he did? I think it had a lot to do with Darnold and Newton being that much worse of a passer than Teddy.
  16. Robby is kind of underrated on this forum nowadays. Did he play his best ball at all times last year, nah. But he's proven the kind of player he is in the NFL. A very good deep threat receiver. Unfortunately he never had a single QB this year who could throw even an average deep ball. Certainly not consistently, anyway. That meant he was forced to now run routes that don't fit his skill-set, if he wanted to get touches and be involved in the game-plan. A guy's Y/R for example doesn't drop as steeply as Anderson's did without there being some other circumstances to consider.
  17. I feel like there's some misconception on this site that GMs league-wide have a say in the staff the HC puts together. This is not the case. If anything it would be troubling to hear Tepper and Fitterer trying to force coaches onto Rhule. Regardless of your feelings about Rhule, that is not how a coaching staff should be built. There needs to be a collaboration on the players being brought in and whatnot. But head coaches should pick their own staff. Do we trust Rhule to do a good job at that? Maybe, maybe not, but it should 100% fall on him. That is the HCs job.
  18. I do agree that we are not an attractive place to come to. But it is still very misleading to suggest we aren't going after a rising star in the coaching ranks, when O'Connell is exactly that. It is possible to both acknowledge that he is a good, or at the very least attractive, candidate, and also that we are not an desirable destination. I think out of all 3 names, Jay Gruden is the most likely candidate considering he's out of a job. I seriously doubt BOB would come here, for a multitude of reasons. I think he only leaves Alabama for a HC position in the NFL, unless we're going to pay him a big bag. O'Connell wouldn't surprise me though. He's never going to call the plays in LA while McVay is there. So at some point he's going to leave to go somewhere that he can, because that is what will position him for a HC more than anything. And there has been a LOT of success recently w/ young, back-up QBs turned offensive coordinators.
  19. Fan of Gruden as OC. But not so much BOB. I really don't see his personality clashing well with Rhule. That is my biggest concern, by far. And despite having Watson for some seasons, the only time as a play-caller his offense has ever been top 10 in either points or yards was 2011, when he had Brady, Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker.
  20. Some of you are so negative to the point that you will find any way to support your clearly wrong take.
  21. Okay? At the end of the day you tried to state that we weren't targeting up-and-coming coaches. When we clearly are targeting an up-and-coming coach. Are you now suggesting we shouldn't be targeting people like O'Connell, because they won't want to come here? And if so, then why imply that us not targeting rising coaches (even though O'Connell is one) is a bad thing? Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
  22. Nah. We'd definitely fire him if we failed again next season, barring miraculous circumstances. And this isn't me just trying to be optimistic for the sake of optimism. But there is no way Rhule would survive a 2nd season of this level of criticism and hate.
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