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Yeah I'm coming a bit around on Frazier.

Puts some good perspective on who could be the 33 best value picks. Notably: #26 Chop Robinson #32 AD Mitchell - maybe maybe he could fall to us if Ladd and Coleman go before.... #32 Marshawn Kneeland - Honestly love his fit and we've met with him. Could be one to start chatting about #34 Zach Frazier - He's more scheme versatile than advertised

Nourzad, Limmer, Van Pran and Bortoloni could be fits and targeted. Don’t believe we need to force it R2 if JPJ or Barton are off the board. Would be nice to grab a guy at the spot. There’s a few other swing interior lineman that could grow into the role but wouldn’t be immediate plug and plays. That ends with Bortoloni. There’s a lot more talent in this class than you usually see that could come in and play pretty quickly.

A bit off topic but aside the common wishes (P-J, Barton, Van Pran), Limmer is a guy who could be a real fit for us and potentially come in with starting ability. Like him a lot in the 4th ish range

People compared Mingo to AJ Brown and Metcalf before anyone here knew Legette...so when they see Legette compared to AJ and DK, there's an obvious correlation - it doesn't hold a ton of water, because the original comp in 2022 was a bit meh, just marginal. It was mainly because of Mingo coming from the AJ/DK Ole Miss factory and having similar body types. You're right though, different types of guys. Mingo didn't have Legette's top speed and hand catching/extension skills. Was also in a really basic offense at Ole Miss.

I like him, he's fun to watch, but he makes me nervous if he's the only WR we walk away with. We're going to be flexing Dionte inside and out. And then you've got Thielen who's better suited for slot but has slowed down and you can't bank on Mingo filling a roll consistently. It's why I think we need the guys that are technically advanced enough to put outside, create separation (not just be a 50/50 guy), and roll into motion inside and can be a chain mover with big play ability. For me, it's why I lean towards AD, McConkey, Franklin, and Pearsall (to a degree). But then, let's say, we land McConkey for example, absolutely turn around and see if we can grab Legette. His upside could be much more interesting to land than a guy like Corley, D Walker, Javon Baker, or J Burton.

I was surprised they didn't chat Pearsall, but the guys with no rumors flying around can be the ones teams don't want anyone knowing they are targeting. I still think he's the best fit for us and would be an excellent choice at 39 or in a trade down in R2. D. Walker outta UNC also got a bit of a passing neg but Brugler didn't report any team specific intel on him. More of a guy Nate didn't like.

Nate thinks he's funnier than he actually is at times, but he's shown to have a good offensive eye at times, more in the trenches and at TE. I guess the house he grew up in helps ha. His "guys" defensively have been a bit shoddy over the years.

I think it's a case of him being an X-Prototype. If there's a team sold on his ability to be impactful outside from the get-go, then I think it's obvious he leaps some of the other second to third rounders. If a team has legit concerns about his game on the outside and thinks he's more developmental, then he's going to be in that late 2nd-mid 3rd range.

Ah! Almost forgot the bit on him. I thought it was rather interesting. They have some concerns with his speed and ability to create separation at the pro-level, but he's a guy that can just make it happen when thrown to. They mentioned D Hopkins as a comp, not grade wise, just style & frame. Nate has him at 33 overall on his big board.

They went a bit in depth on Worthy. Seems to have some of the bigger red flags when it comes to his game moreso than any guy in the draft. Would not be surprised if he had a decent fall. Edit-add- They also had a decent section on Malachi Corley. The issue with him is team's trying to figure out what he's capable of at the jump. The Deebo comparisons got a bit of a laugh. Corley couldn't make the combine, and he only decided on running at his pro-day. Team's are still really uncertain and sounds like a big reason why he has (30) scheduled Private 30-visits. Route running is a bit of a mystery, though, just because he hasn't been asked to do a lot doesn't mean he can't. His interviews will make or break where he ends up.

Robert, Nate & Dane had a great discussion on the class this week. Really nice talk. Ze notes: -Marv is the clear #1. Some teams technically have Nabers ahead of him, but it doesn't sound like those teams are ones in the top-10. -Nabers & Odunze aren't far behind. They are special and each would've been the #1 WR in the past 2 drafts. -They talked Bowers because he plays at TE, slot, and outside. They're prety convinced he could be coveted. Denver, Indy, and LAR were the best fits so those could be trade up candidates with a team like Chicago or Atlanta at 8/9. -McConkey is high for a lot of teams. His combination of Z and Slot ability could end up being 60%+ in the Z. Can make things happen against zone and man. Excellent, top notch route runner, gets open quicker than anyone in the class. They said his skills and what he brings are the best fit for what Bryce Young needs in Carolina. -AD Mitchell has some inconsistency issues that could put him anywhere from 22 to 40. Still, extremely good prospect. -Teams are the most split on Legette, Troy Franklin and Worthy. Those guys could be anywhere from the 50s to the 70s. -Polk is a favorite higher than people think. May not be a top-end #1, but he's a real Robert Woods esque contributor. -Brugler's favorite receiver after the top few rounds: Malik Washington out of Virginia. Our own @Verge 's favorite as well. Powerful, twitchy, one of the best true pass catchers. Is an instant contributor. -Legette has real DK Metcalf top speed, yard eater. But he's limited, you want him on runway routes where he gains speed. He simply does not work himself open. #77 big board for Dane. He's good for posts, crossers, verticals. Early to Mid 3rd rounder comfort level. He's past ~60 overall for a lot of teams. Treylon Burks comparisons but looks bit better in some respects. Special Teams guy at the start, developmental X. Requires a very careful situation and offensive ecosystem. -McMillan - potential stud. Scrappy in the run game, great instant slot ability. -Roman Wilson has a 4th round grade. -Jermaine Burton has real skills, but is apparently a headache. Also got in the doghouse for at least 2 of the many schools he played for. Inconsistent, but sneaky big ceiling. -Their long shot "Puka Nacua" guy: Rice

No chance in hell. Teams are in love with him and Fautanu from Wash.

Note - this is not The Athletic’s consensus mock, this is just one of their writers Nick Baumgardner

Brugler’s “Beast” is coming out that is heavily intel based and Legette is 77 overall, mid third grade. Pros: vertical ability, contested catches, AJ Brown esque traits but isn’t apples to apples. Some of the Cons: Measured shorter than expected, limited production, and simply isn’t ready to be a starting X due to route running and his ability against zone

Nix isn’t going R1–just highly doubt it. Penix is a maybe. And if that many WRs go, then Arnold or McKinstry could be available at CB, Chop at EDGE, Darius Rob, and a few high level IOLs like Barton, King Sua, Morgan. I just hope we exhibit some patience and don’t force anything. Hated that feeling after Fitt’s selections.

Some I didn't name that I like: Javon Baker - Great X potential, tough kid, like his style of play Anthony Gould - He's got some real quickness. Undersized but entertaining to watch Jacob Cowing - This kid is a playmaker. Twitchy as hell, one of the more exciting "joystick" types in the draft

Be mindful of the shtick when it's appropriate. I'm just asking who people like the most at WR, not at 33.

I don't know why turned into the 3rd or so post - this was my OP. Oddness.

It takes 2 seconds to read my OP

I don't think it's a given we take a WR at 33. EDGE, DB, DL, or OL could be in the cards depending on who is there. But, the WR talk is expectedly lively. People have their different flavors. I'm excluding the top-5 as I think Thomas and AD Mitchell, even in the outside chance of falling, would run away with this poll. Who do you got?

As a Tank Dell dynasty holder, noooo

Yeah motions and misdirects that have him gaining speed before the snap definitely help and you can use him a bit in the sweeps where he gets the ball quickly. Totally get that, I probably went to hard into the critique in that slot role. But beating zone on the outside - it’s not in his arsenal yet.

I was gonna make this disclaimer too. Many of the guys teams meet with are for a reason. Not always the case teams are sold-these are job interviews at the end of the day. Could mean they saw promise on tape but heard weird things about the guy. So many possibilities and sometimes a guy that is on these lists could have quietly been scratched off our board entirely due to, well a bad interview or visit.