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It’s really sad to see other teams doing things properly and then we keep half assing it. Tepper literally sent out a “please be patient” warning with PSL seats back when we lost Cam and Luke and it was obvious we needed a rebuild but we continued to act like we were 1 piece away and here we are with a bottom talent team where we still have to make excuses for why the team looks so bad coming out of training camp.

Yep. It’s why I was hoping we’d let Matt Corral drive the boat back in 2022. Let the young QB float or sink. If they float, you may have the answer. If they sink, you’ve got a top 3 pick so you can get your QB without having to give up the farm. The fact that Fitterer was looking at Young for 2 years means we knew we were going rookie QB in 2023 but we still did it so wrong.

And we were quite nice to the Bears to make them a much better spot to land.

Well, no Young trade and we’d be able to see what Williams, DJ and Burden could do. Along with Jalen Carter to pair with Brown.

It’s comical that we are even in the running. Dan agreed with Fitterer’s decision not to trade Burns for two firsts (Rams took Verse with one of the 1sts) and a second. Then, we realized we could sign Burns and traded him for a 2nd and a couple day 3 picks. Now, since our pass rush is worse, we are going to give away a lot more than we got for Burns for a guy 6 years older and more expensive. I guess we also wasted our 2nd and 3rd round picks?

No reason for roasting. Just like the well being of the fanbase, winning will remove the toxicity. Right now, you’ve got the realists who are looking at the 36-80 record over the past 7 years and the dreamers who keep talking about playoffs. Unfortunately, until we actually start really winning again, we’ll continue to have people want to lose for draft picks arguing with people who get upset at draft pick talk as if it’s ruining our culture. Winning improves team culture and averaging 5 wins a year for 7 years is far more powerful than talking draft picks or talking playoffs before week 1.

WTF was all of this. We haven’t won more than 7 games since 2017. We are way past some sort of statistical analysis. You are thinking way too hard to try to make it seem like we’ve gotten enough out of our draft picks. If you want to bring Young into the equation, for what we have up for him, 171 yards per game (38th) and 15 TDs (23rd, only ahead of backups/injured) is not good enough. He has to reach further to have been worth it. Amazing that it’s up for debate that we need our top 10 picks to turn into top 5/10 guys at their position in order for our talent level to get to playoff contention. It’s not rocket science to see where our bad drafting has gotten us and that our talent level needs a TMac to be a stud. I don’t want to be a mediocre team anymore. I don’t want to wonder how good a non-pro bowl level player could be for us.

I really hope so. I really do. We need that. For the others, I didn’t realize I posted in the Michael Pittman fan club forum. Pittman’s 17 game average is 88-974 and 4TDs on 130 targets as the WR1 for a bunch of vets and Richardson. KB’s 17 game average is 58-842 and 6TDs on 114 targets including some awful play with Buffalo and KC. Sorry, Pittman is a decent 2nd round pick but his results would be a disappointment for TMac at pick 8. Simple as that.

Mediocrity gets us nowhere. Pittman is just OK. Dude has gotten a ton of targets. Would I be happy with Pittman over Mingo or TMJ, absolutely, but I brought him up as a just OK WR that isn’t what we need out of TMac. Pick 8 being Pittman is a disappointment. Robbie Anderson’s best season is about the same as Pittman’s best season and Robbie was WR2 with Teddy and had 20 less targets than Pittman. Sorry, Pittman level results for our pick 8 #1 WR would be a disappointment. As I said, until we start pulling actual healthy stud, top 5 at their position or even top 10 guys with our first rounders, which have been top 10 picks for 6 years, we will stay bottom feeders. The two we did have missed 3 years of games out of 9 total years.

What I meant was Pittman is OK. Getting over 1100 yards took him 156 targets and that was his best year. JJ made Darnold look like a HOFer. JJ with Darnold had 2 less targets than Pittman yet he had over 1500 yards and 10 TDs. Mike Evans didn’t skip a beat with Winston or Mayfield. At pick 8, Michael Pittman results is not enough. Robbie Anderson had almost 1100 yards as WR2 with Teddy. If TMac is just Pittman, he’s a big disappointment. We need a top WR not a yardage accumulator due to large target numbers.

Same old poo. I didn’t see any Texans upset when they did an illegal chop block on Bobby.

I still say that Fitterer’s trades/non-trades and drafting were borderline sabotage. Once could look at what we did and feel like he was an undercover spy for us starting to unravel their solid team in 2015.

I seem to remember we were told to not worry about the Jets dismantling us in preseason with Reich because we did so well at joint practice and that’s what really mattered and we were holding back since our first two games were division games. Until proven otherwise, I’m happy football’s back but I’ve go low expectations. Definitely feel better than last year but we have no margin for error.

TMac is my biggest question. Is he going to be our Justin Jefferson or is he going to be Michael Pittman. We need JJ, we can’t survive Pittman. We can’t basically throw away another top 10 pick on average. At some point we can’t keep drafting Iky, Horn (if he stays injury prone), Young, trade #1 overall and maybe TMac. XL wasn’t top 10, but he was also a recent 1st rounder. Our most talented draft pick since Brown (who went 1 pick after Herbert), is a bit disappointing because he’s missed so much time and we didn’t get to savor a rookie deal. Last two SBs were in part due to drafting Peppers/Gross and Cam/Luke with back to back top 2 and then top 10 picks. We had two top 2 picks and got Young instead of say Jalen Carter and Williams or Daniels. At our talent level, TMac has to be our JJ or Mike Evans or else we will tread water at 5 wins again.

Same thing was said when the Jets (another bad team like the Browns) embarrassed Reich’s opening preseason game.