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Cast of elite coaches took an extremely intelligent rookie QB and started treating him like Tom Brady on day 1. They took a high school student with a 4.0 GPA and straight A and gave him advance quantum mechanics from a graduate program. And only 1 person can call the plays and that man is Frank Reich. How good we were on script to start the game today just adds fuel to that fire IMHO. "Each era has the fatal hubris to believe that it has once and for all climbed to the top of the mountain and can see everything as it is, from the highest and most objective vantage point possible."
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Tepper's fault for picking Rhule and giving him unlimited input, money, resources and control. Rhule's fault for picking Teddy,Sam and Baker and being a college coach in every decision he made. Fitt's fault for being exactly the type of consensus building GM Tepper is asking for and for successfully getting all the bad players the coaches begged for. (Fitt needs to be given final say on roster building.) Reich's fault to getting an all star cast of coaches and then calling the plays he wants and for treating Bryce like a 4 year vet instead of a rookie.
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I see our offense as exactly the opposite. We are trying to be much more of a West Coast Spread type offense. Our favorite formation are 1x3. We throw a ton of passes to receivers who are practically behind the line of scrimmage. Reich never meet a mesh route he didn't love. Not taking shots or going vertical is a huge problem but it's not at all our offense. As you say Bryce's skill set is not be having a huge arm and taking deep shots. Of course he'd bust in that type of offense. In the offense we're trying to build, conceptually, he'll thrive which is why I agree with you that in the right offense, he'll be very good.
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Oh, I agree with you. I have the time today which is why I'm debating but if you want to quote other posters then at least have the ability to back it up or explain their opinion. I'm not talking about you. That previous comment was more directed at Mr. Completely who doesn't want to bother with how or why he thinks Bryce doesn't have an NFL arm. He just want to keep calling me "Nicole" when I share my opinion or say he doesn't want to waste his time debating or defending his opinion. If guys just wanna take shots with stupid comments, go right ahead. No problem with that but then actually engage in the topic or start a warning thread about how Zod is looking at those Bryce hopefuls who are being too mean to the massive amount of chicken little's with their hot takes.
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He is very accurate on short to intermediate routes. He processes the play very quickly and finds the open receiver. He has a quick release. Is very calm in the pocket and doesn't panic. Has a nice zip on his balls. Very good leader and locker room guy. Very high football IQ and learns from his mistakes. Has a very innate ability to throw off platform and with different arm angles. Very mobile in the pocket and keeps his head up looking down field when he does scramble. He showed with the Panthers first two drives today with the balance of a good run game and play calling he can excel. As he continues to improve and improve his chemistry with other receivers not named Adam Thielan he shows a lot of potential to be a quality starter in the NFL. The Panthers have done him very few favors to allow him to showcase his abilities but if he's able to weather and overcome suspect coaching, a lack of weapons and the early storms that every young Qb has to go through then the sky is the limit.
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I love debating the arguments but not everyone has the time to waste.
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You can come up with a plan and follow it through to see if it's successful or you can jump ship when poo starts going sideways and make knee jerk reactions and decision not based in facts and evidence. No matter if Bryce turns out to be legit or not I'd much rather follow a path that would allow me to see if I'm wrong or right. It's the reason for your opinion and what you've decided supports that opinion that I have the most problem with.
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No, I hate how bad my Panthers are right now. Hate it. But I hate people pulling BS out of their butt, asserting their opinion as facts and hot takes in general. Hey, you wanna talk about Tepper hiring Rhule being a huuuuge mistake I'm in. Frank Reich calling plays, lets go. Players missing tackles or assignments. Coaches giving Bryce waaaay too much control waaay to early. Overpaying for Sanders. Tepper allowing Rhule to pick Teddy, Darnold, and Baker as his QB and Fitterer for going along with the game plan. Tepper for using a structure that doesn't allow the GM to pick the coach. For trading up. For not trading Burns. All of these things are legit things to argue or call out. Saying Bryce is a bust at this point or calling for Evero's head with us missing almost half of our starter defense just begs the question.
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Why waste your time actually proving some semblance of evidence or logical thought behind your hot takes of one liner BS. There are plenty of things to criticize this team that are actually accurate or have some basis. But by all means allow me to fight fire with fire. I know you are but what am I.
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Naw, I actually not new here. Started on Charlotte Observer boards, thisboardrocks and huddle. Just keep losing old accounts because I can only take so much and have to take long breaks to recharge.
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Evidence of a rookie qb with little weapons, suspect coaching, etc. I not just a Bryce defender. I think he has plenty of "possible" issues but don't know if those issue are legit or a product of other things he has not control over. That is why it takes at least 2 years or longer to really judge a guy. Thielen being the best slot receiving isnt' having it both ways. Why is he rated the best slot receiver? It's because he's the diamond shining on a bad team. Classic example of how stats can lie. The fact that you think this is another strike against your skills to accurately analyze what is really happening. If you've think we've been in any "optimal" situations for Bryce to showcase his skills then I question your eyesight as well as your analytical skill. You say he's a bust and we need to cut bait and move on which is just stupid on it's face at his point and I'd say that for any rookie QB ever. I say I've seen improvement and a lot of positive things when looked at in context. I've also seen tons of mistakes he's made and have called him out on those but I don't know how good or bad a player he will turn out to be because at the end of the day, no one does.
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Thanks for proving my point you have no idea what you're talking about.
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What is an NFL arm in your opinion? What part of that does Bryce not have? How do you know he does not have it? Please answer with examples and show your work.
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You can assert it all you want but that doesn't make it true. I don't know if Bryce is a bust or not because no one knows that yet. I also know that football is the ultimate team sport and everything affects everything else so it's also difficult to judge Bryce because of all the other problems with the team and coaching. Maybe go watch some all 22 film and give me something beside what you "see" of a guy you didn't like before he ever took a snap.
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Because at the time we played lesser teams we played much worse than we are currently. As we have improved so has the level of teams we have faced. The last two weeks we've played two of the top teams in the NFL.
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We all get it man. You don't like Bryce and will take any chance to dog him. You've got some kernels of accuracy but all your comments are extremely biased or not taking what's is actually happening on the field or the situations into consideration. Huddle is not short on "ball not hit receiver in hand, bryce suck" level of football intelligence and this comment isn't meant to be directly a shot at you.
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I have this crazy idea that it's easier to score against lesser teams.
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Anyone expecting playing this Miami team as a get right game needs to change out their football helmet for a padded one. Not only is Miami one of the top teams in the NFL right now, our team has all kinds of problems with coaching, play calling and especially injuries. Next man up is just something stupid coaches say to give backups a pep talk. This game was actually a lot closer than I expected and Bryce continues to improve as does everything else but no where near enough against the Dolphins. If we had played like this on offense we'd have won 1 or 2 against lesser teams.
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Need a foul for floppin.
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Show me a run game and solid protection and he will. You're making this knee jerk reaction off a very small sample size for a team and does not have the pieces or are playing in a way that allows you to take deep shots. Miami's speed at WR makes them very hard to cover with scheme and since they have that threat and are giving Tua plenty of time that equals easy deep balls. Bryce has thrown maybe 4 or 5 true deep balls that were not just purposefully thrown out of bounds. Three of those throws he either had pressure in his face or his WR/TE slowed up or go held. He may not have a great deep ball in the NFL but we don't really know yet and you certainly can't say that based on the evidence and surrounding situations I've mentioned above. The top are the throws just after the ball is released. The bottom are how each QB is able to finish their throw. When Bryce is able to look like the bottom right picture and still misses over the top then we can talk. Until then we just don't know.
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Now, the dolphins have adjusted to our defense and we are missing too many starters to stop them or create big plays on defense.
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The first quarter was the result of the entire offense coaches coming up with the scripted plays. Later on we revert to Frank's playcalling which is much, much more spread and seems to quit on the run.
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Are we allowed to tackle using our arms?
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They were taking a shot to the endzone the whole time. Bryce sees it's covered when he goes to throw so he throws it out of bounds. Pretty standard stuff.
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I do not trust Bryce's eyes when he changes the play at the line. Change the protection, yeah but run the play called or have 1 choice to switch too. Allowing him to run the offense like a 4 year QB was a large part of the problem in our previous games. We didn't dumb down the playbook. We cut down on how much Bryce was doing for and responsible for at the line. Growing pains.