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He was horrible his rookie year but he was much improved last season. To the point he could serve. I am hoping….

Basically he is saying the last pick of the draft and Bryce Young are interchangeable. Okay Purdy could have gone higher obviously. And I’d have probably taken Bryce if he were there in the late 3rd. Edit: strictly on his size and arm, he would be off the board until then. Standards.

I was thinking he has to be in the running for ‘most likely to bust’ though. I am sure there were a couple more. Manziel comes to mind but I think Bryce wins. Jamarcus or JaMarcus was a piece of work and it seems like the good teams should have sussed that out. Quarterback Fever is a bad germ to catch.

This is a score for someone. Go through the motions of getting the banner and renting the plane. Leak the news and wait for the buyout offer.

According to members of the fan club ‘Bryce’s Believers’ you are not allowed to count the 16 games from 2023.

Because everyone is picking on him and treating him very unfairly when none of it is even his fault?

I am not that worried over how they will do if they can stay healthy. Icky is a run blocking fool. Lewis him and Mays ought be able to do something.

Sure let’s do better. I want a bad ass defensive guy. Vrabel would have made me happy. Finesse teams do offense. And we are damned sure trying to do finesse. Can’t even do that right, we have nothing going.

Yeah. And I knew we were going to be bad for years messing with lil buddy college all star. When they kill your hopes for three years at one whack, it is tough.

Maybe he talked with him and expects him to play better. Might be a one more chance scenario. Gotta wait for Coker to come back or something. Legette will force his hand with much more of his crap though.

I know he caught most of the grief over Mike Evans. While using street FAs or practice squad guys to cover him. 3 times. I understand that excuses are just excuses and it did happen. Still, his record of 6-6 in 12 games beat out every single head coach in the Tepper era except 2018 Rivera who won 7 but had 16 tries. So I misspoke when I said every single coach in the Tepper era because 2018. But he got everybody else. I think he was a better HC than a DC no doubt. Hell I wasn’t impressed with him as our DC. After totally loving him as the DB coach. Anyway I don’t feel bad about preferring him over all this crap since.

Didn’t expect him to be a problem child but starting with the first play of preseason he has been one.

Uhh, Luke. But this was a great outcome for a pick. Especially for us.

Lol I don’t Want to get mad about but will end up taking a look at the breakdowns.

I haven’t seen the games but the reports of lack of hustle and effort are damning him in my book. I had hopes for him this year but that is cause for being inactive on game day.

Yeah I didn’t remember how many guys were on offense besides him that were taken but did figure he was facing one, maybe two guys that would be drafted from whatever defense it he was playing. Then the out of conference games against smaller schools that are basically exhibitions, sheesh, you know they can feast. The other thing is, out of those 62, how many really had NFL bodies at that point? Few of them. Most will be different players after a year of NFL training and body development. So you have to think about what the difference is. Even with the SEC guys that got taken, they will be better in the pros too. So when you factor all that in, and look at the Bryce tape and the Bryce pro day and whatever, I just will never understand why.

I understand very clearly that Wilks’ approach in ‘22 wasn’t going to make us able to beat the better teams, but he got us competing and succeeding against the teams we should beat, similar teams to us. And it felt the best any stretch has felt, under Tepper. But Tepper and the mob here had to have themselves the Offensive Minded HC, play caller guru. How’s that working out? I know this: guys in the locker room were all about Wilks. He equaled or bested the win total of every other coach under Tepper before or since. It is a fact, and not for nothin. FWIW I didn’t think he was gifted as a DC, when he was here as the DC. But he was excellent coaching DBs. All those jobs are different I guess, take different skill sets. I think his strength as a HC was getting people to follow him. That goes a long way. After what has befallen this team since rejecting him, I don’t feel like a lesser fan for supporting him, I promise you that.

Yeah, it is top heavy representation more concentrated in the top tier schools. Vanderbilt, I listed as having no one drafted. So we know their defense had no draftees. But I didn’t find a list that broke it down for offense and defense. A team could have a couple guys drafted, from the offense. No way to know without combing through depth charts and draft results. So no thanks. Basically, the numbers would split out to around 4 guys per team. But as you pointed out, 17% were on one team. Then what about Georgia? LSU usually has a few. That leaves fewer spread through the rest of the conference.

Very little difference. There was a stretch when he was benched but getting garbage time and I saw that he had Finally paid attention to his throwing process. Canales had him taking three steps planting and throwing. At times. And he looked much better. I mean, using the Bryce grading curve, which is average for most = really good for him. But he isn’t focusing on it and I see the same bad footwork that he brought with him, far too often. He just does not have the arm to disregard his fundamentals. I have been talking about this since year one, the mechanics. It is very hard to tear down the old and put in new, and not revert to your familiar, old, comfortable way when the heat is on.

Alabama yes. In general the ‘SEC success guarantees NFL success’ fallacy was really tough to overcome too. You still have to look at the player and extrapolate what their college performance would look like against a team full of NFL vets. I think 62 SEC players were drafted in 2023. But there were over 1600 players rostered on SEC a teams. You might even face an SEC defense that had no one drafted. Like Vanderbilt had no one taken in 2025. So you just can’t blindly hold that hey he was great in the SEC he is a lock. Damn, especially with a weak armed little guy with bad throwing mechanics,

That’s what I see. Saw it in preseason and just didn’t want to believe it but yeah, the same. There has been no growth.

My thing with that is you can’t look at it in a vacuum. Things are symbiotic, if I am using that word right. I know that the playbook is a certain way because of Young’s skill set. Just opening things up to different options would change the whole thing for everybody involved. A whole new equation. Otherwise to the original idea, Wallace was a bad pick. I thought so last year when he got on the field and really never improved. And can’t think of them right now but I know there are examples of a coach or GM being great at a position but cannot fill it on his team. But Dan, that Wallace evaluation; wtf happened? But I think the 2025 rookies are looking pretty good if you are grading on a Panther curve. T Mac will make his QB better (I think we see that now). I really hope Zavala isn’t reverting to 2023 form. Because we will be screwed. Kicker couldn’t make it from what, 57? To me, if your defense is strong and is balling and you punt the ball, I won’t complain. This, today, wasn’t that. Canales is still a young coach and still green.

I think several teams did it to us in 2015 after we jumped all over them. We almost lost some Big leads. If memory serves… This game reminded me of those, from the other side.

Lol yeah we have enjoyed a glimpse of professional quarterbacking in week three. Andy will stand tall and take the hit to make the play and that is a requirement. But, I think the streak ends.

I feel like there had to be some kind of Bryce busting contingency agreement that would allow Canales a clean shot if the Bryce thing doesn’t bear fruit. Meaning unless there are other issues he should be okay. There might be other things. I know what the anti Morgan people say, and they may be right. That he lobbied for Bryce. Right along with the rest of them. Swallowed all of it, the hook the line and the sinker. I just can’t believe anyone who played in the NFL could look at Bryce and feel that way. I think Dan as a LB would be salivating to play against him. I cannot resolve that conflict in my mind so I don’t totally buy that he was an advocate. I see it more like his job is to support his boss. Putting on a unified front. While having enough sense to see which way and how hard the wind was blowing around him. You can’t do much being the lone holdout when you are below people on the totem pole. So I want to say he was pragmatic. Fine if you don’t agree, not down for arguing about it. We are all speculating about it anyway. The way they drafted and signed and spent in 2024 was overwhelmingly slanted towards one goal which was propping up the weak link. That tells me they had a mandate from the boss to make it work, whatever it took. I am not so quick to dismiss Morgan under those circumstances, and I think this year’s rookie class is going to be pretty successful. I think the team will improve as we go, and prefer to wait before condemning the whole operation. To me they are majorly handicapped at QB. Playing from the white tees in a blue tee league. Now, otoh if I knew for a fact that Dan Morgan was a pro Bryce over Stroud man, and had real Bryce belief? I would want him gone no matter his history. Stated as a person who was vehemently anti NFL Bryce (not personally, only as an NFL 1st overall).