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I don’t think I’ve seen a worse half of football by a QB than Mayfield had to open 2022. Listened to Person. Whatever. I didn’t hear a lot of hype, he said the team loved him personality and character wise (I am paraphrasing). Said number 1 in high school, 1 in college, the team expected him to do the same in the NFL. He said thye press was okay with giving Young a pass for last year, mentioned Troy Aikman’s rookie year and kept that honest by adding some guys have had bad rookie years and never had a good year. Stopped a little short of saying it was a make or break year for Young. Said they wanted to see improvement. ------- I say no telling the future for sure, but he has room to improve and still not be the guy. That’s how bad it was. He has to drastically improve and it has to show up in the chunk play department, and in the W-L department.

Nothing that Jake said really supported what he was saying. Whether you agree or not, Verge did that. Jake is like, well Geno did great with Canales so Bryce will too. It ignores the experience advantage Smith has, and ignores his deep ball reputation. https://atozsports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks-news/seahawks-geno-smith-named-best-deep-passer-for-the-2022-season-nfl-news/ PLEASE note I am not saying that doesn’t mean Young won’t improve but it’s a lazy job by Jake; the only real commonality is Canales. And Jake works for the team media so what do you think he is going to say, no comment? Haven’t watched Person yet.

Let's just sticky that replay. So people can live in their happy place.

I was joking too, mostly. I think he’ll be better because it is nearly impossible to not be better.

I can help. Keep remembering: pads. Hitting. Game speed. Pressure. First two weeks of camp when it’s all ‘oh boy he is looking great’ let’s wait until actual football before toasting his future.

It was as much about leader and having a captain or whatever. I believe being HC is just s different skill set than being a coordinator. If we have that now I’m good. Respectively: Except you know there are QBs that exceed that. Not sure how much lower I can take those expectations.

My thoughts are... How do you think it would go asking Young to carry the team with his arm? You do have to run the ball to succeed. Running game has long been touted as the best friend a young QB can get Canales came in saying this QB is one of 11 which doesn’t seem like a ringing endorsement of his passer potential. If if it isn’t any of that it is just a breaking down to total fundamental and hoping to build off of that, I guess.

It isn’t unanimous. people appreciate him. We just aren’t feeling real indebted to him (for all those good times we had together). He is unfortunate enough to shine, whenever he does shine, for a losing cause and an increasingly unhappy fan base.

I think it is going to prove to be at least a good try if not a hit. I was a Wilks guy but with Morgan having an influence and Evero in the house I think we are in good defensive hands here. I really mainly wanted a strong leader for the head coach that feels secure enough to hire people that are maybe better at stuff than he is.

30 years and the last 6 rank *way* down the scale.

Seems like that is why Legette. Gettleman tried tall to offset a wild high QB (which is a very flawed solution on its face). I think the jump ball guy in this sitiuation is a sound approach. Actually with as much air as we will likely see under deep balls, an outfielder type that can flag it down will have an easier time getting to it than an off target flat trajectory ball. More time in the air. Which so will the defenders but we have the jump ball guy, so advantage... maybe. edit: and that is also one of my total favorite things: understanding how to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. If your QB can’t rope a deep ball, you have to find another way.

They must have let the non citizens vote. If they had asked only Panther citizens the outcome would have been much less positive. I think 90% minimum of the fan base wants him out of sight and out of mind and would love to have a way to communicate that to the world, and by extension... Tepper. If I am telling the truth.

That is the only way I see it being possible. They are going to have to at least impede the pursuit somehow. He is not fast enough to succeed as a scrambling QB. At least I do not think he is. The downfield stuff fits in there too. But he has to be able to see downfield via lanes in the protection, pocket wise.

Patriots for a long time, Miami can’t play in January up north in January and couldn’t get home field was my impression without researching each season. so if they did get a wild card it was tough

Well here we go. I hated him outside the pocket. Throwaways galore, getting run down from behind, and yeah he made a few plays too. That doesn’t seem like something that will translate from his school days. I suppose we’ll see.

That is pretty much critical and the biggest question in my mind. A lot say Icky and the C position which will play into it. Someone said our QB had a 30% hit rate on deep balls in school. He looked bad throwing it last year. So it’s a pretty big question mark. The biggest one, really, at this point.

I have said all along that the staff knows one hundred percent what they have. Ands last yuear was a chinese fire drill. Maybe now I should call it a DC fire drill. But there is no reason they can’t come in with a good plan for these players.

I’m looking forward to seeing the offensive plan more than any other thing. Otherwise I don’t have much if anything to add about those players excpt maybe, camp is gonna be big for the young WRs. For as far back as I remember, the WR position was considered to be one where patience was needed. The wait until year 3 is something I heard a lot. I don’t know where that went but I bet some guys still do need time. The coaching chaos probably cost Mingo and TMJr developmental time, as well. Wait for the hitting and let’s see.

Yeah that is something too. Be not funny if they spent draft plus gave a top contract to Aiyuk and little old Johnson goes off and there is no money for him. And you can’t trade him can you? UFA after the season. I think we have placed our big bets already let the wheel spin.

Yeah. If we want him, have to hope someone’s starter does not suffer something that costs them a lot of games.

He was a late 1st. I haven’t really kept up but it looks to me like he can’t get his money from SF for whatever reason. And wants top dollar. We just spent a late 1st and don’t know what he is, but that is the way to get these guys. Or in the 2nd. Or 3rd. Look at the guys people have found even last year. Again, we just are getting started, like step 1, with a HC that was hired in large part because of his work with QBs and he came up doing WRs. His OC is a WR guy. I am just thinking we need to let them work and evaluate.

He was a late 1st. We just spent a late first on a guy. That is the way to get those players. You can say Legette was a bad pick, I guess but it’s a little early to say anything definite.

Possibly will, unless someone makes him that good offer he wants. The gamble might be waiting it out and hoping some good team doesn’t lost s starting CB the first week of camp. I suppose maybe he would give them a chance to match. Maybe

yeah. It seems like a waste I don’t know how he will do this year but I know he can play so maybe it really will be the old ‘change of scenery’.

I see what y’all are saying but new staff and they haven’t even had a good look at these guys . Mingo last year. Legette this year. Plus how many OCs QBs and HCs has Marshall had now? I’m not saying they are anything certain but they are so young and the coaching has been inconsistent, lots of change and it hurts young players. We have a WR/QB specialist OC and HC, I am looking forward to them getting to work on them and see what they can make of it. I wouldn’t mind having a stacked bunch of quality WRs, naturally. But I don’t think the timing is right for sending picks and spending a huge contract. We might even need to sign a QB next year. I’d personally make small adjustments and go with who we keep.