LinvilleGorge

Yep. I see Rodgers in Denver. They feel like a team that's a QB away. I think he'll retire before he plays another season in GB. They're $44M over the cap next year and Rodgers says he wants no part of a rebuild. They're in forced rebuild territory. Honestly, they're far better off trading him for assets to rebuild around than wasting his final years.

I'm not trying to discount McAdoo anymore than the NFL has after he was fired as the Giants' HC. I mean, they sure have been beating his door down. He's just not that good. Which is the best Matt Rhule can get.

Yeah, big time marquee QBs could potentially drive the price down. A perceived weak QB draft class could potentially balance that out though. We'll see. Baker is a guy I could roll the dice on. Rolling the dice on Darnold was a joke.

OBJ completely changed that offense and what they could do. Literally no DC lost any sleep thinking about how he was going to defend Victor Cruz. If you've forgotten how good OBJ was in his early years, just go back and watch him nearly single handedly pull off an insane comeback against us during our SB run in Cams MVP season.

I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. But I think Baker would net at least a 1st. Potentially more. Possibly a lot more. We traded a 2nd, 4th, and 6th for the statistically worst starting QB in recent NFL memory.

Baker is better than people want to admit. If the Browns move on from him they'll probably go back to being the Browns of old.

Victor Cruz caught 59% of his targets while OBJ caught 70% of his and could make plays Cruz couldn't dream of. Cruz was a slot receiver forced into a #1 role and got popular because he played in a big market city and did a cute little celebration dance. Your flailing trying to make your case here.

No disagreement there. Michigan, Notre Dame, and Texas are probably the three biggest delusional fanbases in college football. They all think they're top 5 programs. They used to be but they haven't been in a looooooong time. Nebraska used to be in that group but they seem to have accepted their new mediocre reality.

Four wins in three years. 32 wins in four years. These situations couldn't be more different.

This. I honestly couldn't have told you that Mahomes had a brother or a wife. If I was famous I would make Russell Crowe look laid back. I'd have to dedicate half my fortune to a legal slush fund for paying off TMZ creeps that I slapped up.

DJ Moore would be a household name playing for a real NFL organization with a real NFL QB.

90% OBJ, 10% McAdoo People have forgotten how damn good OBJ was his first three years in the league. I mean, he was on potential GOAT trajectory.

Well, that's a mighty selective narrative. The Browns had four total wins in the three seasons prior to drafting Mayfield. They've won 32 games in the four seasons since. Are they elite? No. But are their prospects night and day different since? Absolutely.

Academic standards... As long as you can clear NCAA eligibility you're gold. Arch Manning could have a room temperature IQ with a 2.0 GPA and he'd clear Michigan admissions in 30 seconds flat. Going to good schools as an athlete is very different than gaining admission as a regular student. That's why there was a whole massive scandal where wealthy people were paying middle men to line the pockets of coaches for sports on no one's radar to get their kids admitted.

This is where I've arrived. I seethes through the hatred. Now I'm apathetic and pretty much just paying attention out of morbid curiosity to see just how bad this trainwreck will get.

If one of them has a successful future in the NFL, it certainly isn't Matt Rhule.

The Panthers have had two legitimately good QBs in their entire history. We got absurdly lucky with a low level free agent on the 1st one and we drafted the second one #1 overall. Marquee QBs with the ability to control their own destiny aren't coming to Carolina.

That's my biggest issue. Rhule is just a flat out damn liar. The man constantly says one thing while his actions portray a completely different reality. He's nothing more than a corner lot buy here pay here used car salesman who lucked into a far better paying line of work for a bullshit artist.

Yep. We all saw it. The division was setup to be taken over in the near future. All we've set ourselves up to do is join the Lions and other perennial bottom feeders in the race to the #1 overall pick every year as if high draft picks will fix these broken ass organizations.

We're Panthers fans. No need to look at QBs in the draft. That's not what we do. We need to be analyzing the veteran QBs who will be available on clearance aisle and in the scratch and dent section of the local thrift store. That's where we shop for our QBs. But the stores love us because we'll still pay premium prices!

Really looking forward to the Bills vs. Chiefs. That feels like it should be the AFC CG.

Well, well, well.

Whatever lies you need to tell yourself to cope with our terribleness.

I think the Niners probably get doubled up by either the Rams or the Bucs.

@ the Packers That's the danger of dominating a game and having it not translate on the scoreboard. You're a blocked FG and a blocked punt returned for a TD away from losing the game.