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Designed play for Shenault but it was a bust. Baker has to throw that ball away. No point in taking a loss there. Here we are in 3rd and long... again. Whatya know, we failed. Typical.

Oh look, when you give the ball to your best player good things happen.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna have a pretty quick trigger finger to flip over to the Bills/Dolphins.

Looks like about 30% capacity.

Well, right now he's fitting square pegs into round holes in the secondary.

Because he said we have five guys we should absolutely hang onto? Every NFL roster has at least five core talent guys even if the overall team sucks ass.

No it doesn't. They lost a deep FS. We're wasting Chinn playing him as a deep FS. He needs to be playing an in the box/short zone style SS like Kam Chancellor did in Seattle. He's basically a prototypical cover 3 strong safety. Plus, he's a talented young defender on a rookie contract. Those are the types of guys you keep to build around. The types of guys we need to be looking at moving are overpriced vets that are liabilities for us but could be contributors on a contender. Guys like CMC, Robby Anderson, etc. We need to be clearing cap and jettisoning guys who will age out before we're likely to be in a position to contend. We need to be hanging onto guys like Jeremy Chinn.

We need to hire a new coach and let him build his own staff. If that means keeping some guys, fine. If it means firing everyone, that's fine too. Wilks isn't the right guy for this secondary though. We built a press man secondary and we have an off zone secondary coach. It's just a bad fit. Same is true on offense. Our personnel does not fit McAdoo's offense. Everything is just a poor fit of Rhule simply trying to hire guys with legit NFL experience for the sake of having NFL experience on his staff.

Everyone expecting Rhule to be fired imminently needs to chill because they're setting themselves up for disappointment. He'll almost certainly be fired late in the season like Ron was. There's nothing to gain by firing him right now unless you're wanting to give an assistant a legit trial run to prove he's the guy for the future. Just not seeing that. This staff needs gutting.

We aren't a "get right" landing spot. Not with this coaching staff and overall environment. More like a "cash your last checks and invest smartly" type of landing spot because your career wasn't over before it is now.

You know why we reminisce about players like Cam and Luke and Greg Olsen and Jordan Gross and Smitty? Because we fuging suck complete ass and we had some success with those guys. We miss that success. Fans only reminisce on the off-season or when they fuging suck complete ass

And he's been benched. This is gonna be interesting going forward.

It's true. Giving a RB a big money contract is almost always a bad move. Draft them and let someone else pay them. Hindsight is always 2020 but imagine where we'd be as a franchise right now if we had taken Mahomes at #8 and say Calvin Cook at RB in the 2nd in that 2017 draft. Now obviously we weren't on the 1st round QB market then but again, hindsight being 20/20 and all that...

Good for him. Seriously. Sometimes a guy just needs a change of scenery and a different system or a position change.

Yes, we will. We'll either win the game (highly unlikely) or we'll be one more loss closer to firing Matt Rhule (almost certain). Either way, we win.

I'm a total numbers geek. I actually enjoy analytics. It's not emotional for me. Numbers are what they are and it's fun to look at it. And it's fun to laugh at our staff when they show such blatant ignorance of it while acting like they're out-analyzing the rest of the league while losing 2.5 games for every 1 that they win.

To drive my point home, our 3rd down conversion rate is 26%. Horrible, right? But, it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect it to be based on 2017 regular season data on 3rd down conversion success based on yards to go which is the only info on the matter I could find with a quick search. In short, our offensive issue is absolutely NOT converting 3rd downs. We're actually okay there based on the analytics. Not great. Not awful. But fine. Consistently putting ourselves into 3rd and long situations is our issue on offense. This may point heavily to Orlovski being right about us tipping our hand on offense. You can't really tip your hand on 3rd and long. It's an obvious passing down. Take away our ability to tip our own hand and we're pretty much the overall average offense mose of us expected us to be. Not great. Not awful. But fine.

Yep. Every team in the league would suck on 3rd down if their average 3rd down was 3rd and 10.

Add CMC to that offense and it literally might be the greatest NFL offense of all-time. No exaggeration.

Same

OL on bad teams struggle to make Pro Bowls unless they're a perennially dominate player (like a Joe Thomas). Fans don't watch the OL and only notice them when they're great or awful. The rest of the time they just blend in. The same OL tend to go to the Pro Bowl year in and year out based on name recognition.

I had replied to another thread from the bot but I'm going to make this its own thread. McAdoo talked about the team's struggles on 3rd down but showed a stunning lack of awareness as to the root of the issue. He talked as if the offense could basically be fixed by simply addressing our inability to convert on 3rd down, but... Since we've only played two games it was pretty easy to go through the play by plays to look at our 3rd down situations. Against the Browns' our average 3rd down distance to go was 9.9 yards. Against the Giants our average 3rd down distance to go was 10.3 yards. That is a recipe for failure and if you look at that and conclude that our issue is 3rd down then you're a fuging moron. Our issue isn't converting on 3rd down. Our issue is consistently putting ourselves in low percentage 3rd and long situations and a lot of it comes down to penalty issues. These guys talk about analytics but it's just talk. They don't know what they're fuging doing if they're actually utilizing analytics

Rivera talked about running a 3-4 but I never saw any actual change in his defensive concepts. We just got lighter on the edges and essentially ran a 4-3 D with 3-4 personnel on the edges.

The only common theme to our starting QBs (and overall teams) under Tepper is that they lose a lot.

Tepper said he was staying out of football operations as he focused on the business side of the house his first year. Going into the second year he talked a big game about how he was now going to be putting his stamp on the football side of the house. Well, his first year was our best (bad) year on the field under his ownership. Since he put his stamp on the football side of the house it has been shown that "stamp" is actually the mushroom stamp other teams have been slapping on our face on the field ever since. Funny thing is that Tepper doesn't talk so much these days. He really wanted to strut around and try to be the face of this organization when he first took over. He pretty much just hides these days. It seems like he's embarrassed of what he's created and he damn well should be.