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Really hoping Snyder hangs on. As long as he's there the WFT is basically a non-contender.

I sure hope so, but hope is all I've got because I can't point to any solid supporting evidence.

Me as a Panthers fan reading this

A new thread for this? One of the other dozens of Watson threads couldn't suffice?

It's tough to read much into it from the outside. Might be something to it and it might be that Apple really was just mailing it in. I mean, he is a former top 10 pick who has bounced around the league who has been called a cancer by former teammates and no one came calling when we cut him.

Two sacks in seven games. He had his moments. We all know how difficult it can be for rookies to get on the field under Rivera. He could be capable of much more than we realize... or not. We'll see.

Honestly I'd almost forgotten about him. Looking forward to seeing him back and seeing what he can do.

He's supposed to be very good but it's gonna take a LOT to be better than Howell.

If I had to trade him, I'd be trading him to the NFC unless an AFC team was willing to just blow everyone else's doors off

I have hopes for UNC. Howell is the real deal and we just got a commitment from another big time prospect.

Without Watson forcing himself out of Houston there's no way it would happen. Even if he does there are other teams better position to make the deal if they want it.

Drafting Jones in the first two rounds is overdrafting him IMO. He's likely an NFL backup. Everyone wants to make Brady comparisons to which I say there's a reason why Brady was a 6th round pick. And Brady's arm at 40+ is about equal to Jones' at 22.

My reaction... They traded Hopkins??? For THAT??!!!

Emotional Internet Guy 101 - Build a Strawman

It's almost like you didn't watch the Panthers play this year. Stop watching the results of college plays/games and thinking it directly translates to the NFL because it worked in college. Oh yay! Mac Jones just completed a 50 yard pass for a TD! He's amazing! Nevermind that the WR had the CB beat by ten yards but nearly had to come to complete stop allowing him to nearly catch up then simply out-motored the physically out-matched CB to the endzone.

Watch his passes vs. Burrow's and stop being emotional. Burrows hit dudes in stride. With Jones, those receivers are generally having to slow down and/or make other adjustments. That gives NFL DBs time to recover. There aren't going to be many times where you're open by ten yards in the NFL like those Bama WRs were.

Jones is throwing more often than not to dudes that are wide open. The downfield throws usually aren't that great. They basically look like Teddy's, NFL DBs just have a lot better recovery ability than college DBs.

He's basically a less athletic Teddy but has the guts to throw the ball more than ten yards down the field.

Goff and Cousins are the comparisons I keep coming back to as well, but I honestly think both are still considerably more athletic than Jones. Jones is basically a pure pocket passer with a below average arm. That doesn't seem like the makings of a starting NFL QB to me.

I think we're rapidly approaching the point where there's not many places Watson would straight up say "no" to. I think he REALLY wants out of Houston.

I think we have some interesting pieces to offer, it's just a question of whether or not you'd want to send say three 1sts and Burns + Chinn to Houston for Watson. I'd LOVE to have Watson but IMO that price is just too steep. The big knock on any package we could offer is that it wouldn't provide a clear path to another franchise QB for Houston. #8 is probably too low.

What? That seems very contradictory.

I thought the basis of your reasoning was that the Panthers screwed over his idol Cam Newton? That seems to be thoroughly debunked at this point. I mean, he probably still doesn't end up here because the Jets and Dolphins are both in a far better situation to trade for him but your reasoning seems to be completely out the window at this point.

I'd argue that Rosen had more talent, he was just an entitled brat. Tua seems like a great dude who may have been ruined by a devastating injury.

Understand the concept of a sunk cost. With the new rookie salary scale, you're no longer hamstringing yourself with an outrageous contract on a top pick. I'm sure the Cardinals don't regret for a moment bailing on the previous year's #10 overall pick in Josh Rosen to take Kyler Murray #1 the following year.