LinvilleGorge

You don't necessarily have to be intelligent to be a helluva football coach. Hell, look at Dabo Swinney.

Read my post again.

I would take Goff for a conditional 7th as long as they also kicked in a 1st.

If he delivers us Howell like Clausen delivered us Cam, then it'll be a helluva pick.

I think his best case scenario is somewhere around Kirk Cousins-ish. Basically Teddy with the balls to maximize his abilities. That's not good enough.

So, Howell in '22 it is.

I doubt that. If he gets moved it'll be before the draft, but there's still a month and a half before he can actually be traded so might as well use that time to try to work things out.

LOL! His own teammates have reportedly been telling him to force his way out. The Texans are a fuging dumpster fire. Andre Johnson (longtime great Texans WR) has been tweeting about how he should GTFO of that organization.

It was always going to get ugly. The Texans don't want to move a 25 year old elite franchise QB. If he's going to get moved they're going to force him to be the bad guy so they can spin it to their fanbase that they moved him because they want guys who want to be there. Trade compensation won't be an issue. He's a 25 year old elite franchise QB. Those guys just don't become available. There will be no shortage of potential suitors.

Front office personnel being replaced shortly after the hiring of a new GM? What about this seems odd?

This is where it gets fun. We have a good old fashioned wild west showdown. This isn't in the least bit shocking. The Texans aren't going to give up and move Watson without a fight and even if they're already seeing that it's inevitable, their best public position right now is to put up this front both for their fanbase and to send the message to teams wanting to approach them that they better come with an offer too good to refuse.

Yep. Cam was great but he's gone and he's not coming back and injuries look to have derailed his career. Watson is 25 and in his prime and IS great and he's available. Cam is my favorite Panther of all-time and it'll be hard for anyone to eclipse him, but he's in the past. It is what it is.

Any leakiness likely comes from the Houston side of the table. It's absolutely in their best interest.

I doubt Mahomes will try to force a trade here either, but I guess we can hope.

There hasn't been any trustworthy reports that this is the case or likely to become the case though. Most "trustworthy" rumors indicate that surprisingly the Jets are his preferred destination. There have been some whispers that he might be open to the idea of Carolina, but nothing that indicates he's ready to take a stand and try to force that move. Sounds to me like he's probably given the Texans an idea of the teams he'd like to go to or at least the teams he will refuse and he's at least somewhat open to multiple options. What could give us an advantage here is that we're an NFC team.

Where a guy was drafted is no longer relevant once they've proven what they are in the NFL. If we think Lance is the next Watson, we don't go after Watson.

They have to be interested in making the deal though. The Dolphins came out pretty early that they weren't gonna be involved. For better or worse, they really do seem committed to Tua. The Jets are reportedly planning on sticking with Darnold but I don't necessarily buy it.

Because two of them suck and one of them is old. Watson suffers from neither.

In '21, Jared Goff has a $37M cap hit. Matt Ryan has a $41M cap hit. Carson Wentz has a $35M cap hit. I don't think you're in tune with what good QBs make in today's NFL.

There were three elite QB prospects last year and they all went in the top 6. There are four this year and it wouldn't be at all surprising to see them go into the top 7. The Lions moving on from Stafford honestly makes it likely IMO.

If they're sitting at #8 and don't/can't trade up and Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, and Lance are all gone what are they gonna do? Reach on Mac Jones? Oh wee mayne.

I like Rhule. He seems to connect with his players. Ron did too. The difference I see between Rhule and Ron is that Rhule seems willing to learn from his mistakes, accept them, and learn from them where Ron and Hurney would double down on their mistakes with bandaid approaches instead of being willing to say, "Well, damn... we fuged up. How do we actually FIX that instead of doing our best to put lipstick in this pig?"

If they're sitting at #8 they may or may not have that young QB to get excited about. #8 might be on the outside looking in on the QB run. I think that was our plan last year too, but #7 turned out to be one pick too late. Good chance #8 ends up being that way this year too.

I think an elite QB on a rookie contract is the single most valuable asset in the NFL. That's why I think Lawrence/#1 overall would command more. You take the risk of him not planning out, but you have the huge potential reward of having an elite QB on the cheap for the next five years. That's HUGE.