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If we draft him, I have to think that we believe that his issues are coachable. The talent is definitely there.

What's your next troll account going to focus on after Teddy is gone?

Yeah, if I know there's a steaming pile of hot dog poo behind door A, I'm gonna be willing to roll the dice on door B.

I could see it depending on his trade value. There are more teams than ever seemingly desperate at QB. Not all of them are gonna come out of the draft or FA with their guy. The Jags might all of a sudden find themselves with a decently hot commodity.

He hasn't fallen yet.

He checks all the physical boxes and from everything that's come out of the Panthers this off-season that's what we're looking for in our next QB. I won't be surprised if we draft any of the three non-Lawrence "big four" QBs. An intriguing case can be made for any of them.

This would be a prime Hurney move. The only mistake better than the one you can move on from is to double down on the same mistake.

Make it a Traeger and a twelver of good beer and you gotta deal.

I wouldn't rule out Gardner Minshew as a possible third tier option. 1st tier being Deshaun Watson. 2nd tier being high 1st round draft pick. 3rd tier being everything else.

I honestly don't care where Teddy plays next season as long as it's not in Charlotte. Any compensation received I'll view as just icing on the cake.

What he did against Clemson was special for sure. No doubt about that.

I'm significantly less sold on Fields or Lance being there, but I 100% agree that if it's not QB we should be trading down if the opportunity presents itself. IF we make a non-QB pick then the only two positions that make sense to me is LT or shutdown CB. But if we're sitting on the clock at #8 still needing a QB with none available that we want, then we probably need to be trying to secure an extra 1st in '22 because we're likely having these same QB conversations leading up to next year's draft and may need additional trade ammo to have a shot.

I'd rather draft Micah Parsons at #8 than Mac Jones and I absolutely do NOT want to draft an off the ball LB in the top 10.

He's really good at hitting his first read for a reason.

Listen, I don't knock Jones for taking his first wife open read. Hell, that's what you want your QB to do. I'm just saying that it doesn't really translate to the NFL. Herbert did it at Oregon too. That's what that system called for. He showed he was capable of much more as a rookie in the NFL. My doubts with Herbert were primarily mental. Was he capable of more than Oregon asked him to do? My questions with Jones are much more physical. Can he fit the ball into the tighter NFL windows, particularly outside the hashes and down the field? I don't know and that's why I wouldn't take him into late in the 1st at the earliest.

Yeah, when your first read is wide open and way better than the opposition that tends to work a lot.

If we get a duel threat QB I fear he may be imprisoned after one game. If someone was keeping tabs on how often Jones throws to his first read it would be a LOT.

Very different. I always said Herbert had all the physical tools you could want in a QB.

Subpar arm strength. Subpar athleticism. Then mentally, he's shown very little ability to go through a progression. He's basically shown he can succeed when his teammates are far superior to the opposition and he can throw to a wide open first read. That's just the honest truth.

This. I don't hate Mac Jones. I just hate any thought of Mac Jones in the three quarters of the 1st round. He just has way too many physical question marks. I think he's probably an NFL backup. Honestly, I kinda doubt we're interested. Rhule has talked a lot about guys who can make all the throws, etc. Jones is going to be a limited NFL thrower and I don't think we want that.

LOL! It's not like underthrows typically make highlight reels my man. Just go watch a Bama game. They're there. You asked for an example. I googled "Devonta Smith deep" and clicked on the third link on Google because it was under a minute. Then came the whataboutisms.

Brady's arm at 40+ is still stronger than Mac Jones' at 22. Brady doesn't ha e a great arm like a Favre or Mahomes or aRodgers or prime Cam, but his arm was always decent to good.

This is a typical Jones deep ball. Recover is wide open and leaving down the field. Has to slow down and track back inside to get a ball underthrown and missed wide. Only complete because the guy was wide open.

All those times wide open deep receivers have a to slow to a near stop to wait on the ball to get there. I mean, just watch a Bama game. It happens every game.

Yes. Burrow's arm is better. Honestly I didn't read the rest.