LinvilleGorge

Bryce playing just good enough to give the team enough hope to roll with him again next year is the worst possible scenario.

This is almost always accurate.

Would've rather won but can't be mad about a three point loss on the home court of #1 in the second game of the season. If you would've told me RJ Davis would go 2-15 and that RJ, Cadeau, and Trimble would combine to go 10-36 I would've confident said we got blown out for sure.

When you have a pretty good unit across the board you can float a weak link, especially on the interior OL.

App has just fallen off a cliff. I'm just not sure they have the resources to compete in D1 with the new NIL stuff. Not sure they would've made that jump up if they knew what was coming. As a fan I'd MUCH rather compete for championships at the D1AA level than be a doormat in D1.

Don't forget costing us our #1 WR and a poo ton of draft capital.

I'm convinced it doesn't matter. All the work in the world can't fix an insurmountable talent deficit.

On the other hand you have a third year UDFA #4 in the league in SF filling in for injured huge money CMC.

I honestly didn't like trading up on the 2nd to draft a RB with a torn ACL. That didn't seem like a great move for this roster. But it wouldn't be a bad move if he proved to be a quality starter. But now signing Chuba to starter money on the hells of that? Yeah, that's significant roster building assets tied up in the RB position which has been a hallmark of the Panthers' roster building thought process over the years which has led to zero sustained success on the field.

And it could be substantially less. Outside of a handful of elite guys there's no one who should be getting paid "starter money" at RB. It's a plug and play position. We drafted Brooks to be our starter. We can find a serviceable backup with a mid to late round pick or low level free agent deal. We need a QB and a whole defense. A backup RB with a starter contract or starter draft capital investment is the last thing this roster needs.

We have a long history of way over spending on RBs, off the ball LBs, and interior OL and zero history of sustained success on the field. These two things are not unrelated.

I'm absolutely amazed at how many people actually think this was a great move. Like did y'all just become Panthers fans yesterday? When has re-signing a RB to a big money contract ever worked out for this franchise? DeAngelo Williams? Jonathan Stewart? Christian McCaffrey? All of those re-signings were mistakes. Giving a RB big money has a terrible track record of ROI, period. It's a draft 'em and let 'em walk position. A big part of the Panthers' roster management issues over the years and a big part of why we have historically been inconsistent before finding our consistency as perennial cellar dwellers under Tepper is because we have always fundamentally struggled to understand positional value. We have always tied up far too many premium resources be it cap space or draft picks in non-premium positions. We currently have a ton of money tied up in RBs and interior OL. This is the type of stuff that I thought Tepper's "analytics" and hedge fund experience would help fix yet the doom cycle just keeps repeating.

Every highly drafted QB is high risk, high reward. No way around it. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the draft and that's especially true at the QB position. It's just that when you trade a king's ransom for the pick it becomes absurdly high risk with the same potential reward. You've vastly skewed the downside of the equation.

A guy suddenly having a career year in contract year only to revert back to his norm after getting paid is a tale as old as professional sports. Don't be surprised if it happens again.

We are the dumbest fuging team in the league. We just traded up to draft a RB in the 2nd round and now we're paying a guy we should be letting walk. Just amazing ineptitude. It is no accident that we have become perennial cellar dwellers. We've worked hard to earn it.

Another matchup of two of the worst teams in the NFL. This might be the worst thing to happen to Germany since the firebombing of Dresden.

I almost hope they do just so we can watch them get completely skull drug TCU style.

Great trade for us. Mingo is hot garbage.

30 seconds is a long time with three timeouts in your pocket.

Haven't read through the thread but last year with Canales as OC, the Bucs were 23rd in yardage and 20th in points. This year without him they're 5th and 3rd respectively. With all of our focus on adding offensive pieces we're still near the bottom of the league in both categories. Not looking good but you have to give him more time. You can't just keep firing coaches.

When you know your D sucks it can cause you to take chances you probably shouldn't take. You feel like you gotta put up 7 every possession.

This is an underrated factor but the NIL money in college should help root out some of it before draft day

At least AR can run. I do think he would've really struggled against that Vikings D though. They probably disguise coverages and blitzes as good or better than anyone else in the league. Flores may have flopped as a HC but he's a helluva DC.

He just had no ability at all to throw on the move. If you can get him off of his spot the play is basically over for the Colts.

It does. But still, when you can overcome that combination of negative plays and still win comfortably in the NFL that's pretty damn impressive.