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I'd be pissed if I was a Broncos fan. The play clock was on double zeros for at least two full seconds on that TD. They'll usually give you a split second over because they're having to check the play clock too but that thing was zeroed out for a loooooong pause. That was a delay of game.

Mac Jones signed for like 2 years/$8M. Probably something along those lines. Being a former high pick always gets you another chance. Even Jamarcus Russell got numerous workouts after absolutely busting and ballooning up to the point that he looked like he was better suited at OT.

A coffin corner punt executed perfectly! Haven't seen one in years

Bryce is probably gonna be here next year. The guys being talked about wouldn't cost much to bring in. We HAVE to bring in vet competition. Not a guy signed to be a meek backup. A guy signed to come in with the mindset of taking the job. Then we still need to keep our options open in the draft.

It's like our top WR, OT, CB, S, and TE conversations. The top one is really good. #2 is pretty good. But get below #3 and it starts getting pretty ugly pretty fast.

By "all these other QBs" you mean virtually everyone else in the league taking snaps?

Both.

Would not be opposed to bringing him in.

That comment wasn't about Maye. It was in response to suggesting that his and their team success is primarily about a soft schedule when they kicked the poo out of us and beat Buffalo who also kicked the poo out of us.

Ah yes, my bad. It's easy to forget those handful of games Frank coached. LOL

Hell, it's not what he did here when Bryce missed games his rookie year and old but not yet completely washed Dalton took the field.

Giants have been hit hard too. Starting RB and #1 receiver down in an overall weak WR corps and yet the rookie QB is still showing promise.

Doesn't have to be a long-term solution. Just had to be better than Bryce. I don't think we've really seen Canales' offense yet. This isn't what he ran in Tampa. I think Canales wants to threaten defenses vertically we just don't have a QB that can do it.

32 out of 32 teams would take Stroud over Bryce. If Houston called us and offered Stroud for Bryce, we'd have Stroud a flight to Charlotte booked before the phone was hung up

I wanted to trade for either Jameis or Howell before the trade deadline.

I'm definitely not all in on QB in the 1st. I'm just all in on keeping our options open. Give me a decent veteran journeyman in FA and then keep our options open in the draft.

Come week 14 we might be in even more need of the bye week than now. It's hard for me to complain about our injury issues when I look around the league and see teams like the Niners in far worse shape on that front still winning. Most of our injury issues are concentrated on the OL and fortunately that unit is still finding ways to play pretty well.

Everybody does. It's football. It's hard to be 100% healthy during football season.

Everything is a maybe. There are no sure things in the draft. Hell, there aren't even sure things in free agency. But we can't just keep pretending Bryce is a franchise QB.

Seriously. He was a bust of an NFL player but he still got fug you money balling ass rich and evidently he's packing a serious knee bruiser so damn... yeah, winning at life. LOL

There is no 100%. But continuing to pretend that Bryce is a franchise QB is 0%. I'm not gambling on a franchise savior. That's what we did when we traded up for Bryce. I'm simply saying to try to improve the most important position on the roster with a relatively low cost veteran and then go into the draft with QB fully on the board too. I'd like to see us emulate the Giants' approach this past off-season. They signed both Jameis and Russell Wilson, then drafted Jaxson Dart in the late first. Russell looked completely washed, Jameis is probably still Jameis, but Dart has showed a ton of promise. They gave themselves multiple chances and they're certainly thrilled that the one that is panning out is the one on a rookie contract with the longest future ahead of him.

Then you're not reading. I've said repeatedly that I'd sign a decent FA vet and I'd keep my options open in the draft. Guaranteed? There are no guarantees in life but seeing that Bryce is near the bottom of the league in virtually every QB metric and near the top of the league in every turnover metric it's a pretty fuging low bar to clear. What we can't do is just keep pretending that Bryce is a franchise QB. If Bryce had been a third round pick he would've gotten 3-4 starts and buried on the bench and might honestly be out of the league at this point. His draft status and the investment we made has carried him far enough. Now Rico is trying his ass off to keep carrying him but we have to evaluate the QB position like you evaluate any other position - on the merit of the individual play outside of the team's success or failure. Bryce is still playing like Bryce. The rest of the team has just dramatically improved.

The key difference being expectation. Jake was basically an afterthought of a free agent signing. Bryce is a guy we mortgaged the franchise on to be THE GUY. Not to mention a different era of football before all the rule changes to benefit the passing game. I don't care how we win either. I just realize that the odds of continuing to win in today's NFL with this level of QB play are very low. If I knew for sure that the Panthers had already decided to pursue other options at QB this off-season I could breathe a sigh of relief but of course they're not going to say that publicly.

On some of those "GWDs" he literally didn't even complete a pass. It's a terrible metric. Did the team possess the ball and score to go up near the end of the game? If yes, then GWD for the QB. What? Even if he doesn't even do anything?

That's 200 yards, a TD on a screen pass, a dropped INT, and a fumble recovered by us on the "Bryce curve".