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If I could have five minutes with Scott Fitterer I would literally just say, "Alright man, Corral over Howell and Bryce over Stroud. Let's hear it. Go."

I knew Howell was gonna be a stud. But I'd be lying if I claimed I predicted hin to be leading the league in passing yardage after week 10 as a 1st year starter.

We had 6 20+ yard attempts in that game. Bryce has 14 in the rest of the season combined. We had 3 20+ yard completions in that game. Bryce has 5 in the rest of the season combined. That was the big difference that day. We had a viable vertical threat to our offense.

I keep going back to Dalton in Seattle, man... Why did the offense look so much different that day? Why did we have more 20+ yard completions that game than we probably have the rest of the season combined? Yeah, we haven't put Bryce in a good situation. No one is trying to argue that we have. But Bryce has done very little to show that he has the physical talent to excel in the NFL. Hell, I don't blame him for that either. That's not his fault. Go slap momma and daddy for that one. But our decision makers have to be able to recognize that.

The whole selling point on Bryce was his NFL readiness. Literally no one would've tried to argue he had higher upside than Stroud or Richardson or Levis for that matter. What is there to develop? He physically maxed out in college. This was the whole concern about Bryce. That he might already be as good as he's gonna get.

It's just ironic that you see people down on Bryce as trying to hide the truth while all the reasons that Bryce isn't a bust yet involve things not related to Bryce because there's nothing in his actual play to hang that hat on. All the hope revolves around creating a perfect situation around him meanwhile we have very limited resources to do so due to the trade to get him. THAT is what is really frustrating people. At this point it's VERY obvious that he's not the type of talent to justify the move that we made.

Meanwhile, the two leading passers in the NFL are a second year player first year starter and a rookie. But let's keep willfully ignoring reality for cope reasons. When an over the hill journeyman comes in and soundly outplays your #1 pick... yikes.

Oh, I'm 99% sure Bryce is gonna bust at this point. Outside of us miraculously falling backasswards into landing top offensive talent around him and a brilliant offensive mind on the sidelines I just don't see any avenue for him to be a good starting NFL QB.

It's not just that Bryce lacks ideal size. It's that he's historically undersized. Nobody on earth actually believes that combine weight was legit. The dude looks a buck eighty tops. He hid all weekend under that hoodie to hide the spare tire he was carrying from porking up to step on that scale so tanked full of water his eyeballs were floating. Then on top of being historically undersized we add on a marginal at best NFL arm and we really have an uphill battle on our hands.

Man, there's some good looking 1st round receivers next year. Harrison Jr., that Washington kid, that FSU kid. They all look like top 15 picks IMO.

Agreed.

This is when people just get mad. That's the part of reality they REALLY don't want to have to deal with. This is where all the whataboutisms fall apart.

Hell, Bieniemy is part of the problem in Washington. The man practically puts the entire offense on Howell's shoulders.

I don't hate Bryce. He seems like a good guy. I think he's doing the best he can and that's all you can ask of a player. If a guy is putting in the work and receptive to coaching then it's either poor talent evaluation or poor coaching... or both leading to the failure. People get frustrated because they feel like he games the pre-draft process but that's his job. As a draft eligible player your job at the time is to maximize your draft status. I don't put any blame on the prospect for that.

That's the problem. All the scenarios where Bryce succeeds revolve around ideal scenarios. We need a top 5 OL with top 5 weapons and a top 5 OC and THEN we'll see why Bryce Young went #1 overall. Well, I'm sorry but if you need all that to succeed then you shouldn't have been a 1st round pick much less #1 overall.

No one would be frustrated about Bryce if we were seeing signs of elite traits. There's just a handful of plays we're left clinging to. Meanwhile there's a ton of plays that leave you thinking this guy just doesn't have the required prerequisite physical talent. Willfully ignoring reality doesn't make you an objective fan. Quite the opposite.

College coaches who don't know any better or aging retreads looking for a retirement paycheck are essentially what we're left with.

I could see going to watch an opposing team but honestly after the Cowboys this week there's not even an intriguing opponent left. It just looks like the most boring matchups the NFL could make. I guess that's what happens when you largely have NFC South vs. NFC South teams facing off. What an embarrassment this entire division has become. That honestly just makes things even more frustrating. That mediocrity that Tepper wanted to get rid of could probably dominate this division the past couple years.

His name is Kyle. How perfect is that? Blaming the fanbase for being frustrated about repeated errors leading to six straight losing seasons somehow finding a way to get worse every year and mocking our joke of an organization instead of directing their ire where it belongs - at this joke of an organization. What a Kyle thing to do.

Twice? Hell, what have we actually gotten right? We do nothing but fug up since Tepper started throwing his weight around. We're a comedy of errors. This is like a live long form version of Dumb & Dumber or The Three Stooges.

Yep. Basically Cam's rookie year again. Don't get me wrong, we wouldn't be a good team. But we'd be competing week in and week out and we could all see that we have that dude at QB and we'd be hopeful as hell for the future. Basically where the Texans are right now.

Option 1 for me would be Howell plus DJ Moore and all that draft capital we gave up. But option 2 would definitely be to draft Stroud over Bryce. Either way, vibes would be a LOT different around these parts.

I 100% admit to having Richardson and Stroud as my 1a and 1b but convincing myself to be okay with Bryce because if our experiences staff and all these analysts didn't see the physical traits deficiencies that I thought were just glaring then in must just be a me thing. I'm probably wrong. Well, fug.

I still think back and chuckle at all the footballs that got spiked when Stroud threw a pick on his first preseason drive. Oh, Stroud's a bust they screamed! LOLOLOLOL @ Houston! Our super processor would never make such an obvious blunder! Those same football spikers reassured is all preseason how much better Bryce and the overall offense would look once the regular season came and we started actually game planning. Real football fans know the preseason doesn't matter they said. LOLOLOLOL! We don't want to show our cards. Now those same people are desperately clinging to parroting the "it's too early to call Bryce a bust yet" line.

It's tough to admit that the QB we passed on is doing elite QB things and elevating his supporting cast. It's a bitter pill to swallow and it sucks but it beats being delusional.