JawnyBlaze

Sure on paper that looks like a reasonable expectation but it never works out like that. We could be getting the 6th best receiver if some of those teams in the list have another position higheron THEIR priority list or if a player they deem as better is available so they pass on the perceived top need and address their second biggest need with a player they like more. Or there could be a run on receivers and a team that picks before us in the second addressed their top need in the first and WR is their second need. All that’s important is that we take the best player available at a position of need and they are who we think they are. We already spent our first and most valuable pick in this draft on getting Bryce. That’s a sunk cost. For now we just have to focus on improving the team as best we can and if that means spending the first pick we have available on the 9th best receiver then so be it. We won’t be getting a top 5 player at a position of value at #33, and if we do it’s because it’s a weak class and they’re probably not as good a player as the 9th best receiver. It’s not like we have nobody and HAVE to draft a WR like the Bears HAVE to draft a QB now. We have two starter quality WRs and a couple projects. If better players at other positions of need are available at our picks it would benefit the team to take them. I wouldn’t be mad if our second round picks are a C and pass rusher or CB if they’re the better prospects when we pick.

Of course we should. Anyone who thinks Mingo is a bust after one year with Bryce as his QB and that circus we had running the show needs to just turn in their football card immediately and just watch golf or something.

I’m pretty sure if Mike Alstott was in this draft his pro comp would be CMC.

Yea Favre was bountygate and dirty plays away from the Super Bowl with Minnesota.

It sure seems we are better, especially considering the OL upgrades and the addition of Johnson at WR. Clowney is at worst a temporary wash with Burns. Probably actually a minor upgrade but only for the short term. Losing Luvu is a big downgrade but possibly made up for by the upgraded DL (notably Robinson) making it easier for the LBs. The secondary is looking worse on paper but we’ll see how it plays out. Troy Hill was a very nice surprise last year but he’s getting up there in age. Knowing what we know now, that the last coaching staff was a clusterfug and Reich was terrible/a terrible fit and Canales is a complete unknown, an unknown is better than a known disaster, so yea top to bottom we’re looking much improved this year from both a roster and coaching staff standpoint. We still need to improve the secondary, that’s the only thing on paper that really needs more work. TE is weak but not a necessity. LBs aren’t world beaters but if they stay healthy they’re sufficient. DL looks really strong and combined with scheming our pass rush should be no worse than last year (which wasn’t good), maybe even better. Good enough. Our run defense was the problem last year and it should be significantly improved with the Robinson and Clowney additions.

I think Chuba actually would be a mid tier starter, good enough with a solid line (which it looks like we have) and won’t be expensive on his second contract unless he has a really breakout year this year, but either way I’m down for the “draft a RB in the 4-6 range every year” strategy that others have mentioned. Mostly throwaway picks anyway and could always get lucky.

Amen to that.

Jfc can we just not with the bot?

I’m glad we didn’t pick up the phone for $15mil

Sure? jump two spots for the wr of our choice with a 5th year option for just a late round pick that’s not going to address a need anyway? Absolutely

Must be satire

That was me last year, still holding out hope he would develop. But he seemed lazy to me last year and that did it for me

lol you’re right. I knew we had done it at some point but couldn’t remember the exact case. I suppressed that memory even though I actually own an Everette brown jersey lol. Swore that would be the last rookie’s jersey I ever bought.

#1 and 2 draft picks who weren’t very good outside of their association with Reid. News flash, draft position isn’t a sure fire indicator of talent (shouldn’t have to tell that to a Panthers fan in 2024…)

TMJ would be my top pick. He’s the furthest from his potential imo.

I haven’t looked into McCarthy at all since we’re not likely taking a QB this year but I look at any QB coached by Harbaugh with a very critical eye. He’s like Reid in his ability to squeeze the most out of mediocre QBs (Reid’s work before Mahommes in KC and Philly was pure sorcery)

The last time I could find was 2009 the broncos traded their 2010 first for the Seahawks’ #37. It’s such a specific condition it wasnt easy to search for, but that’s the last one I found. Seahawks turned that first into Earl Thomas the next year.

Not much more we could have done to be honest. The only thing I dislike is losing Luvu but it sounds like he just wanted to go somewhere that he feels can maximize his talents better and the low compensation for Burns but I don’t think we were going to do better now. The mistake was on the previous regime, not this one and this FA period. A- for me. The guards and WR Johnson are huge.

The first pick like #1 overall? Nah I don’t think that’s happened. But trading their next year’s first round pick? Yea that’s happened a number of times for early second round picks.

If it’s a bad team that will probably pick high next year, then yea a first would do it. If it’s a team probably picking in the 20s, then they’d have to throw in a 3rd this year or something close.

Yea that’s how remember it too. There weren’t many of us that stuck to what our eyes told us about the both of them.

Stroud made the situation work, not the other way around. You say 50/50 but it seemed from my Stroud side to be more like 70/30 on team Bryce before the draft and it was obvious to me then just as much as now the difference in talent between the two. I hope Bryce works out since we ended up making the mistake I feared, but he was a large part of the problem last year, not the victim. It’s possible he can improve, I’m in the minority in that I don’t think his size is the biggest problem. His lack of arm strength is a problem but that can be worked around. His biggest problem is accuracy (among the worst I’ve ever seen) and terrible/slow decision making, which is ironic given the hype that preceded the draft.

Yea, same, but I imagine he tried hard enough within reason. It’s very possible Luvu just wanted to move on, he had seen enough of this poo show and wanted to play in a defense that catered more to his skills which will lead to a bigger payday. I don’t blame him, and I don’t blame Morgan for not giving him a crazy contract.