JawnyBlaze

No thanks. Maybe if they also threw in this year’s 2nd.

The pressures cause negative plays by the offense (ints, incompletions, etc), offense have to gameplan against him because he’s so fast which makes everyone else around him have an easier job, and he’s also a lot better against the run than most give him credit for. If the offense throws two blockers at him and runs right at him, then yea he’s going to get run on but so is just about every other elite DE. But he’s smart at recognizing plays, smart at setting the edge and pursues from behind across the los really well. Many times he tracks down RBs that ran to the opposite side and tackles them from behind as they’re being patient and waiting for their blocks to develop to the side they’re running. He does a lot that doesn’t show up in the sack column. There’s a reason most in the business views him as an elite DE even if many Panthers fans don’t

9 sacks a year is fine with top 10 money with everything else he brings to the table.

Some people just refuse to admit that refs can be wrong.

That’s not a penalty, coming onto the field without a helmet isn’t mentioned in the rule book

That was a great one play, but he has been pretty bad consistently. DJ had nothing to redeem, he’s always been good and make a spectacular play

Nah. Let PJ finish the season. He’s earned it. Find our permanent solution in the draft. Even if Darnold would perform “better” I’ve seen nothing to suggest it would be good enough.

Yea obviously neither King nor Florio or whoever wrote the response article to the game actually watched any of it because they both said he took his helmet off in the field of play, which is obviously incorrect.

I don’t believe that for a second. If you can find it in writing then I’m wrong, but a former official disagrees with you and common sense disagrees. If he had caught a pass where he took his helmet off, it would not have been a catch because it would be out of the field of play. The field of play is the field where the game is played. Anything outside the boundary lines is not where the game is played

That’s referring to a separate penalty, the “excessive” part. Taking the helmet off is only a penalty in the field of play, the reference to the Lambeau Leap was if they wanted to try to call it “excessive celebration” instead of taking the helmet off

Ok I was off with the “didn’t touch” but he still had the helmet completely on when he was completely out of bounds

Yea the part that mentions excessive also specifies “two or more players”, this is talking about the rehearsed celebrations. Not a solo player taking his helmet off out of the field of play and jumping in the stands. How many times would the Packers have been flagged for this if the Lambeau Leap was a penalty?

I looked up a video and Cam was definitely out of bounds, but the article also implied it was for taunting rather than taking the helmet off. I couldn’t find video of the ref explaining the penalty (I suppose I could get on game pass and see it, I might later) so I don’t know if the helmet was mentioned.

I didn’t mean to imply the only two times in history, just the only two times mentioned here (or that I can recall) were against the Panthers. I’ve never seen that penalty called against a player that wasn’t in the field of play other than DJ and Cam (assuming the previous poster is correct and Cam was out of bounds when he took his helmet off)

He didn’t even touch his helmet until he was fully in the white out of bounds area. I don’t understand what’s so hard for people to grasp here. Yea, he should not show any joy or emotion after presumably winning the game for us, I get that. But his momentary lapse in judgement should not have cost us the game because it wasn’t against the rules.

Yea I didn’t mention the Cam one when it was mentioned earlier because I couldn’t remember where he was. If so, that was an erroneous penalty too. Goes to show the only two times it was called that way when they weren’t on the field of play was against the Panthers…

Exactly

I’ve never ever seen a player flagged for taking their helmet off to celebrate out of bounds. I’ve seen it a few times in the end zone or on the regular field. Aka in the field of play.

Yep.

Wut. I never said he was trash, too old or garbage. I said I didn’t think he was a good permanent starter and I already admitted my error yesterday

Yea that was an incredible pass for sure. Cam has done it, I’m sure Josh Allen could do it. Aaron Rodgers probably. Stafford in his prime. That’s about all I can think of among active QBs.

He took his helmet off out of bounds out the back of the end zone. The rule doesn’t say he can’t be in the field of play without a helmet. That happens often when players run onto the field from the side line. The rule explicitly specifies the act of removing the helmet is the penalty, not being helmetless.

You’re conveniently leaving out the critical part of what you yourself are even presenting. It says “in the end zone”. Moore wasn’t in the end zone. Diggs was. Moore was out of bounds (aka out of the field of play) when he took his helmet off. Full stop. Not a penalty.

Probably. Was still soul crushingly bad though lol