Jon Snow

So the solution is to do what? Buy our way out? If it was that easy every team would be a juggernaut. The culture is established by management and the players. If management is bad they draft bad players and that's your culture. Its is deeply rooted in this organization and has been for a very long time.

I agree. Until the Pats game he was money. The entire special teams group decided to sit the pat's game out.

Dave is going to be forced to do something if this continues, which it will. I'm just wondering how bad it has to get before Young is benched?

If there was a backup out there that could lead a team to victory he wouldn't be a backup. Drafting your own qb is your only option. We are still in that perpetual cycle of looking for a qb. We have never been out of it since Cam was lost. So every team will be throwing picks at the problem until they hit on one. Look at all the vet starters outside of the handful that a franchise guys. Everyone of them their teams would love to replace with a young and much better rookie. Its the nature of the game.

What other choice do they have? Taking someone's number 2 qb and expecting that guy to pull this team out of the basement is not a realistic expectation. It's like expecting Young to miraculously grow 6 inches and become a HOF qb. Thats not a sound strategy.

The only option you have is to get a guy from the group that is available. As you are well aware that if you do not have a competent qb you have no shot at competing. If you are constantly picking in the top 10 you need a qb plain and simple. Like it or not we will be in the marker for a rookie and a veteran this offseason. Let's hope at least one of them is worth the roster spot.

Realistically? We might beat the Jets and split with the Saints. I would not expect anything more than that.

This would help tremendously.

They will get another win at our expense. Our only shot at wins are quickly running out. Its Miami and the Jets or nobody from here on out.

I've always been saying this team has to draft their way out of the nfl basement. But they suck at drafting so here we are and here we will stay until that improves.

There's been more Heisman winners fail in the league than I can count. Its not a way to pick a sure thing in the nfl.

How is that even possible?

If you're counting on it every 10 to 15 years then more power to you. In the meantime you will just have to settle for whoever is available in the draft for us to choose from. I'm guessing there will not be a generational qb in every draft going forward.

And each time it was pure luck.

Its a combination of things. Most of these kids are going to bad teams unprepared for the massive responsibility they are undertaking. College does not prepare them for that. In college the come into a program that is nearly always successful and they think they are the reason for that. The truth is they are just continuing there success by not playing like ass. When they get to the nfl they are expected to make an already bad team into a playoff powerhouse. Very few rookies can overcome that pressure without a really good coach who can put the right pieces around him to maximize any potential he may have. Not many young qb's can survive that and be successful. Its the nature of the beast called the nfl.

Having a guy like that is desirable sure. But we will have to settle for competent until we stumble onto a guy like that.

Every team that doesn't have a qb of that nature is looking for one. That's about 28 teams.

Folks have different opinions brother. Its okay to disagree now and then. I don't necessarily agree with him and as someone who was skeptical of him translating to the nfl I was willing to see it play out. I think that experiment has ran it's course and I need it to be over.

Thats like cutting off your penis because you're tired of screwing the homely girl next door. How about going out to a bar to see if you can improve your odds of getting laid by someone else.

Give everyone a raise and then fire them. Hire myself and give myself a raise and then fire myself. Rehire Hurney then fire him again. Grab Mrs. Teppers ass and sue myself for harassment and force myself to sell the team.

Whatever agreement they had on Young shouldn't apply to the rest of the team. It doesn't excuse his failures unrelated to Young. Thats the rub with me. Tepper is not controlling that. If he is then Tepper truly is the head coach which makes Canales nothing more than a OC and not a good one at that.

I'll have to agree to disagree on how fair it was. In my view from the peanut gallery he had an opportunity to hedge his bet going into this season. Even if he were confident in Young he hasn't shown he can produce with him. He hasn't shown an ability to adjust his system or play calls during the game. He cannot control his own coaches or coaching decisions. And that's just off the top of my head. If I really gave two sh*ts I'm sure I could dig up a few more reasons. I'm coming to the realization that I may never see this team competitive again in my lifetime. F*ck you Tepper.

The plan is fine. I just think they picked the wrong green horn to stick to.

From the looks of it it's rancid. It certainly smells bad. Better throw it out.

I'm not on Twitter or any other social media so that frees up a lot of time I cannot afford to waste. I waste too much of my time on here as it is now.