MHS831

My theory---Jimmy G is going to be cut (his contract is not guaranteed) if not traded. Teddy would give them a QB in the event they need a bridge for 1 season, then he can be cut. I dunno--speculation

It would still be an upgrade, but I am with you.

I missed big time on this guy---thought he was going to be a stud. The Indy GM should have been fired for trading for him after he showed what he was about in the NFL.

If you ask me, I was never impressed with Flacco who won the SB in 2013.

Watson's current contract is about $16m vs. the cap and rises to $40m in 2022. Not sure what Houston would have to eat in a trade, but if this is true, and I am very far from being knowledgeable in this area, why are we clearing cap room NOW? In addition, cutting Bridgewater post June 1 saves the team $8m ($3m pre-june 1 cut). I noticed that we have not used the Post June 1 cut yet--even on Short--are we saving that for Bridgewater? I dunno. So if we make this trade, in 2021 we have as little as $8m invested in QB--so why the moves to make cap room? Well, these were OBVIOUS moves, but if we have to give up picks and players, we will need to be effective in free agency over the next few years. In addition, we need some room to restructure Watson's deal in 2022--where he gets $35-40m. Of course, thanks to KC, he may want that to be his average over the next several years. Funny how these teams (Seattle comes to mind, KC) high on Super Bowl nectar, give these huge deals to players and that sets the market. Remember the Flacco contract? So shoot some holes in my logic because this is how I see it--and I am not a fan from this perspective like some of you, so I am wrong a lot.

To restructure you have to sweeten the pot for the player. It saves the team money now, but restricts their options later. Teddy's deal was front loaded and guaranteed (for the most part) for 2 seasons. If you want him around for 3 or 4, it will cost the team more guaranteed money over the long haul. This is like using your credit cards to pay your car payment. not INTERERSTed (see what I did there?).

You need a QB. a good one. Does that mean sell the farm to buy some magic beans. Here is the way I think of this trade with Watson: The three first rounders (equivalents): 1. Brown, DT 2. Burns DE 3. Moore WR In addition, they will want 2 more starters and probably (hopefully) Bridgewater. Watson played well on a team without much of a supporting cast in Houston this past year. They won 4 games. Will this not be the same situation with a depleted roster here? So this becomes about the difference between Bridgewater with a supporting cast and Watson without a solid supporting cast. Of course, you have to assume Watson cannot have a supporting cast if we make the trade--maybe that is illogical. Can we have a supporting cast for Watson (with the cap, free agency and draft?) That is the challenge. And the Panthers might be banking everything on this unusual year in free agency--can we fill these gaps with quality players AND go after Watson? It is possible.

This is the year that 50% of the teams in the NFL will have a new QB in 2021. If they do not draft a QB at #6, and if Lance is there, they probably trade back. Like #Soja says, and I agree, the QBs (4) could be there at #8 if there were no trades, but there will be trades. Even if they do not trade out, NYJ, Miami, Atlanta, Philly, and Detroit all COULD take a QB. Cincy could trade back. QBs that could be available after the draft: Garrappolo (some say Bill Belichick will have him back in NE) Carr (He somehow posts good numbers and they still hate him in LV--That's Gruden for ya--I don't want Carr either) Tua (Beware any Bama QB--they do not know what it is like to get rushed or have to throw a WR open--or not to have a defense that gives you the ball back when you need it) Darnold (Sure looks like a bust. Could the right system save his career? The Panthers are not currently in the QB rehab business, so this is probably a pass unless NY gives him away.) Hurts (He could not keep his job in Bama, but having said that, I think he may have the most upside of this list)

Tepper is ready to make his move---forget about reading tea leaves---this is going to be a wild ride and nobody knows how this is turning out. Popcorn time.

Tua was a stupid pick. Having said that, I see no team making the moves it may need to trade with Houston--maybe I am not paying attention, but I think the Panthers better start working on Plans B, C, D. etc. as well

I am the famous white rapper from the 70s called "Zero the Hero" (aka "white fudge") Word. Zero Out.

I agree with your concept, but there are literally thousands of ways to go--I would not re-sign Douglas--I would re-sign Corn and go with Pride and Jackson, looking to find a CB early.

Take all posts for what the are worth. There should be no personal attacks initiated--I retaliate, but do not initiate--I am secure in the fact that my mind has drawn a different conclusion. I think for myself--I am not offended when others say things that do not agree with my hopes. This is not a cult. Let me give you an example of how NOT to attack a fellow Huddler: Four Corners is who he is. I asked him why he calls himself that, and he said he likes triangles. He is rarely right, but do I call him out? No. He might have been dropped as a baby or perhaps his parents did not lock the chemical cabinet. Who am I to judge? He might be overachieving for all I know. So don't call people out. I hope my point was made here.

And 5 of the teams above us need a QB

Damn, Marty--if we didn't have such a huge dead cap #....

YGM would replace Watt's physical style of play better than Burns, and they can find a player like PAYE (Michigan) --the draft has some big edge players this year. in other words, we do not need to directly compensate their loss, but it does make the offer more attractive if we can offer pass rush.

Translation: We need a LT, G, and G. Re-sign Paradis (done), tag or give Moton a new deal (hopefully) and re-sign Miller in free agency (cheap, decent G who knows Moton and Paradis--communications are very important for the OL). That leaves a LT and LG. What is up with Daley? We talked about re-signing Scott, who was decent in relief of semi-retired Okung. So we are closer than needing 4 shiny new hogs. And for those who say the OL was good last year, I would like to take this moment to say, "They surpassed expectations because there were none." Reed was terrible at LG, giving up A gap frequently and often whiffing on pass blocking DTs--think about that. Not a speed rusher--a DT. LG was terrible.

Brown did a TON that we just did not see on TV. He is a beast and will dominate next season. I would not want to be an OL vs him. And this should be the year Burns becomes elite--especially if he gets some interior pressure. It is hard to say who I'd want to lose if we had to trade one.

Seriously--having cap room this year in free agency is smart. First, more players will be cut to get teams under the cap--there will be many more solid veterans out there for this reason--and less $$ on the table because the cap dropped. In theory, we could get some talent in March, filling many needs. But this is correct--Short, Weatherly, and Palardy were all dead weight.

yeah--we can handle the dead cap money next season (if that is what happens) more than now. Good point about eating dead cap last season. You get the feeling that this is the year we make a move. I would like to point out this-(and I don't think it is the case, but it should not go ignored)-- What if we are creating cap room to sign some veterans to replace traded players used to move up with the Dolphins, for example? So we package CMC, Thompson, and three first rounders to trade with Miami. We have a QB on a rookie deal (Fields, for example) and we have cap room in what should be a buyers market in free agency (more players being cut to get under cap, less $$$ teams have to spend). Now we can grab a LT in round 2 and shop for veterans in free agency to fill other needs (CB, LB, G, for example). In rounds 3-7 we can draft a S, Slot WR, and some depth OL. Just a different look. Remember, Tepper (if he is providing guidance at all) made money as a hedge fund manager--they look at the world differently--from the underside of Wall Street--so maybe that is in play. We will know well before the draft if Watson is available and if we got him. Regardless of that outcome, clearing cap space in a productive manner allows you to be aggressive in the draft as well.

Newsflash: Tepper is not the only person on Mint St. who sees the connection between winning in the NFL and the QB position. If your boss walked in and said, "You sold 5 widgets last year. I want you to sell 10 widgets next year. And you knew that the others who sold 10 widgets had something they call the "Widgetblaster 2020", you would go out and get a "Widgetblaster 2020". That is not the owner meddling. That is caused motivation.

I was reading this and thinking how much I feel the same way...This is Riveraless, Hurneyless team building. No personalities, no clinging to aging veterans, etc. I seriously think Marty and Rivera developed personal relationships with players that blinded their judgement at times. Could not make the tough decisions when then needed to be made. Then I scrolled down to see what the cerebral Huddlers have to say, aka the "asshats", always poised to attack a concept without offering one, would say. Of course they bear the burden of extremely-accurate insight into all roster evaluations because they use hindsight to focus their wonderfully positive visions of the future. It is not a marketable skill, one that has somehow not landed them careers in NFL front offices, on Wall Street, or prognosis gurus in the medical field, but somehow, their genius runs rampant on discussion boards when there is no accountability or stack of facts to dispute their cynical predictions. They just sit on the power lines across from the house like vultures, trying to kill any positive form of life that emerges. Here's to you, oh great predictors of Panther doom and 3-13 seasons because if it happens, you can say you were right and if it does not, no matter, you will deny it while working on the next year's gloomy forecast. Nameless, anonymous fry cooks and road construction traffic flaggers, these overlooked visionaries are kind enough to grace us with their visions of destruction and chaos, holding dear their predictions that the Panthers will be the first NFL team in London or CMC's career is over because he had 2 injuries in the same season. Yet we all know that the year the Panthers win the Super Bowl, despite the multitude of criticisms and naysaying, these gloomy Gus's will be at the front of the parade, amidst the blue and black confetti, waving the banner that reads, "I told you so!" The end

No. Anyone who researched him and watched him would dismiss him as a G. He was a boom or bust LT. He busted. You do not experiment with a LT if you have your future QB back there. Not only does it get the QB hurt if he gets hit, but just KNOWING Little is on the left side can cause the QB to hurry a throw or flinch when the clock in his head hits 3 seconds..

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