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He just fell into a big slump randomly.

He’s going to get traded to the Rams for a 3rd or something and sit behind Stafford for a year or two with McVay. He’ll get a shot, be surrounded by weapons and fail. Finally, then will he be labeled as a back up.

Dominated? I swear y'all just make poo up on here. Eagles: 3-4 Titans: 3-4 49ers: 4-3 Texans: 4-3 Chiefs: 4-3 Dolphins: 3-4 Jets: 4-3 Broncos: 3-4 Steelers: 3-4 Packers: 4-3 Commanders: 4-3 Raiders: 4-3 Lions: 4-3

1) Comparing Moton to Ickey is an insult to Moton. 2) Ickey is slow for a LT and a lot of scouts had him pegged as a Guard during the combine. 3) You can't just "pay talent" -the salary cap exists.

To be fair, Mayfield was playing way out of scheme in 2022. Darnold played out of scheme with Joe Brady in 2021, but he did well with McAdoo in 2022 after Baker struggled. That was really just Rhule and Fitterer shoving square pegs in round holes. Bryce has now looked like ass in 2-3 different offenses.

Brown but Horn is the best active player yes.

That list is missing a very important piece. I can't quite remember who.

I went back 20 years just to reflect, here it is. Something happened around that red line. I can't remember what, but I feel like it changed the franchise.

When Wilks took over as HC he promoted Al Holcomb to DC. Holcomb struggled and Wilks had to babysit him. We also only had like 3 position coaches on the whole team. With Ben McAdoo pretty much doing everything on Offense. Wilks took over as DC in 2017 after McDermott took the Buffalo job. Defense finished 7th I think that year. For what it's worth his Defense in San Francisco finished 3rd last year and Shanahan still fired him.

Love Cam but Allen is the better QB.

Thats why I support the Journeyman and Day 2 QB combo. You can build your team until you have your guy. And who knows, one of those could turn out to your guy in the process.

Only downside is then you get nothing. Now, there is plenty of time when he's on a 5th year and Franchise tag, etc to bridge that gap though.

If I had to pick a Day 2 or Day 3 guy at QB it would be Kurtis Rourke or Haynes King.

I bring you Will Campbell, projected Top 10 pick.

I really just want Young gone after this season. I don't think I can take another year of everyone pretending he isn't horrible and getting excited when he has a 185 yard game. I would rather take a Journeyman and a 2nd Rounder than deal with this another year.

Can we start Jack Plummer. I mean it’s a win/win.

Yeah it’s very unlikely. I think he may get a job in the NCAA somewhere.

I would. He isn't a dependable LT. He would be a Pro Bowl Guard but he just doesn't have the agility to keep up with some of these Edge Rushers. You really don't want to pay this guy LT money for a job he is "okay" at. He isn't going to want to move to G because the market isn't as high. We also have 2 really expensives Gs right now. I'm surprised they haven't tried moving Lewis to C, he has played there before, would allow you to move Ekwonu to LG.

My top 3 are: Robert Saleh Lovie Smith Leslie Frazier However realistically I think the Top 3 are: Ken Norton Jr. Aaron Curry Kacy Rodgers Norton did a better job than Clint Hurtt in his time as DC in Seattle. He at least had a Top 10 unit a few times. Curry is a promising candidate and has a lot of upside. I think Kacy Rodgers is underestimated as well. He has developed a lot of young players and the one spot on Tampa's D that hasn't fallen backwards is their DL/Run D.

I think he can be a good WR. I wouldn't exactly make him my #1 plan in 2025 though.

1st fumble killed the momentum. Getting the ball back and scoring on the deep pass re-energized us. Fumbling on the opening drive of the 3rd killed us and what is left of the defense quit. Canales tried running the ball. Dallas stacked the line Coker beat them deep Dallas started switching up stunts Bryce got confused on his protections Bryce starts getting hit and turns ball over Panthers D quits Dumbass falls back into melancholy mode and starts dinking/dunking again. If you go back and look at some of the replays, a lot of the pass protections are on Bryce not recognizing it and adjusting at the line. Same reason he got benched in week 2.

Don't have one, that's the biggest problem.

We ran a ton with Dalton if you remember. Canales' offense is actually built around play action. Dave didn't run it more because it takes longer to develop and the pass rushers get there before throwing lanes can develop for Bryce to see. You can see this everytime he gets pressured he sprints out of the pocket to reset rather than stepping into it or resetting- not only is he being chased, his view is more obstructed than somebody like Dalton, Darnold, Cam, etc. PJ Walker used to do this too.