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Everything posted by jayboogieman
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You're going to be really upset if the Panthers don't draft Fields. Joking aside, I think it would be a mistake to draft a round one QB while trying to rehab Darnold especially when the team doesn't have an established or good enough Oline to keep them upright. The LT position has been a constant revolving door for more years than the QB position. If our 8th pick helps solve it, then it's a draft pick well spent. Me either. Build the Oline to the point it is good and then worry about getting a franchise QB. Putting the cart before the horse is never a good idea. QB is a hole, but it's not the biggest. The Panthers are not ready to compete for a championship nor just a QB away from doing so. Build the team and most importantly the Oline and then worry about the QB. There is no point in having a franchise guy if they can't protect him long enough to do his job. I think they'll take a QB in the mid to late rounds as a backup and developmental guy, but not as someone to compete with Darnold for the starting job.
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Yep. I'm hoping they go LT though. It's way past time that position was properly addressed.
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Does Rhule have time to waste a first round pick and draft a QB only to let him sit a year? If Rhule doesn't have time to boost Darnold's confidence or "coddle his feelings", he doesn't have time to let a guy sit for a year. If the Panthers were in a better place, I would have no problem taking a QB and letting him sit if needed. But since the team is still in a bad spot, I would rather draft a player that can play now. That could be an LT, which is more than needed, an edge rusher, a DT, a guard, a center, a CB, safety, or WR. I'm not wild on the idea of drafting a linebacker this highly. And I'll be glad when the draft gets here and is over.
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How many young QBs have been ruined by bad Olines? When was Fitterer Seattle's GM and made those decisions? I'd be thrilled with a QB if the Oline was better, but it's not. As the old saying goes, don't put the cart before the horse.
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My preferred option is OT at 8. As others have said, the Panthers have thrown whatever at the Oline for years without putting top talent into it and it is past time they addressed that issue. That said, I'll be happy with Pitts or Chase at 8 if both Sewell and Slater are gone.
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And you shouldn't. I wouldn't give them a pass if a rookie QB is drafted and flounders either.
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What if Robby or DJ are not in the long term plans and they see Pitts as a guy that will be? Pitts and CMC could be a very versatile and lethal duo for years.
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And they very well might miss out on a tackle if they don't take one when they have the chance. There is a chance the Panthers might have their choice of every tackle in the draft at 8. If that happens, they need to take whichever tackle they like best. There is no need to have a young QB if they can't protect him. There will be a QB that people don't think much of now that will rush up the draft boards during and after the college season. From what is being reported the Panthers think higher of Darnold than any QB in this class not named Wilson or Lawrence. They seem to think they have solved that issue this year. Time will tell if it is true or not.
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Do you just want a guy that can start or do you want an LT that can protect the QB at an elite level for a decade or so barring injury? If there is a big drop off in talent between the rest of the first and second round tackles, other teams are going to be jumping on those guys too. By not addressing the position when they have a chance could be a huge mistake if there is a run on tackles later in the first and into the beginning of the second round. From what has been reported, the FO believes they have addressed the QB position with Darnold. Fields to Atlanta makes a lot of sense since he is a Georgia dude, but they may decide to reload with Ryan one more time before pulling the trigger on his successor.
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I don't think he falls to eight. Odds are Sewell, Pitts, Chase, and four QBs will be gone before the Panthers pick.
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I agree with you about taking either of the top two OTs. That said, I would be happy with Pitts if he is there and the two tackles are gone.
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Fields and Lance are huge question marks too. The Panthers have a chance to take an elite LT prospect. They need to take that chance to protect Sam or anyone else they put in at QB.
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Source: Panthers Open to Drafting Quarterback With No. 8 Pick
jayboogieman replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Amen Doesn't matter how much potential he has or how good your QB is if they don't have time to throw the ball or are hit every time they drop back. The Panthers are in good position to draft top O line Talent and need to take advantage of it. The Panthers can always draft a QB next year when hopefully teams are not being stupid with what they are asking for and giving up to move up in the draft. -
Other teams have the same issue of not having a rim protecting big, but don't have everyone pack the paint and give up as many threes as the Hornets do.
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Yeah, they did not play well at all during the first half. Not being able to defend the three is something that has been a thing since Clifford coached the Hornets. I would have thought JB would have fixed that, but nope. They still pack the paint and leave the shooters open just like when Clifford was the coach.
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The Hornets almost always suck when playing early afternoon games. Hopefully they ball out tomorrow. Yep.
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Yep. For a few reasons too. If they are all in on Darnold, it makes no sense to draft another young QB that highly and have Darnold looking over his shoulder at a guy that is also expecting to have the same job. If Darnold doesn't pan out, odds are the Panthers are picking high again next year and can go for a QB then. They might be able to fleece a team that is desperate for a QB. Take one of the high LT prospects and keep building the team for the next guy if Darnold doesn't pan out.
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Take Sewell. If he pans out, you have an elite LT which this team hasn't had in years. Other teams will also be looking to pick up those young and cheap LT options in the later rounds, so that means the Panthers might not be able to get one due to a run on them. Don't pass up the chance when you finally have it.
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Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Trying to change the subject to Clausen: 1+1=2 not 4. And two is a couple. -
Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Now you want to play word games? You said a couple which means two. Triple is three and quadruple is four if you need a refresher. -
Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's not just outliers though. There have been a lot of players in the NFL and other sports that have played at high levels for a long time after having bad injuries. There have also been some that never recovered and played again. But, you give him a chance and see what happens. At worst the Panthers are looking for a QB again next year. But that could be true with a rookie or other vet as well. -
Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Thomas Davis and Steph Curry say hi. Don't hold injuries against someone unless it is to the same body part each time. -
Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bolded for you. A couple generally means two. As for easier than ever? That depends on the individual and which team drafts them. Things have changed in how teams treat rookies in the last decade or so. The feeling used to be that all QBs needed time to sit and learn. Now, teams have no problems throwing them out there day 1. It is very possible that some of them could have always played from day 1 if teams didn't make them sit. -
Breer talks about Gase (and Tannehill; oh, and Darnold)
jayboogieman replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I always thought The Last Boy Scout was a good popcorn movie for the time it was made. And yeah, it did have some good one liners.